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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 March 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 26th meeting in 2024 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Before we begin, I ask members to ensure, please, that all electronic devices are switched to silent. We have received apologies from Ariane Burgess.

The first item on our agenda is to invite Tim Eagle, our newest committee member, to declare any relevant interests. In welcoming Tim, we also thank Rachael Hamilton for her contribution to the committee’s work since the start of this parliamentary session.

Tim, do you have any interests to declare?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Our next item of business is consideration of an affirmative Scottish statutory instrument—the Free-Range Egg Marketing Standards (Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2024. I welcome to the meeting Jim Fairlie, the Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity, and officials from the Scottish Government. They are Darren Cormack, who is food and drink, livestock products policy manager; and Judith Brown, who is a solicitor.

I invite the minister to make an opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Finlay Carson

An important point is that the reason why 30 per cent of respondents across the UK were not happy with the proposal was that free-range eggs might be marketed as such when the hens had actually been housed for a lengthy period. Say that I, as a consumer, go into Aldi or Marks and Spencer—other supermarkets are available—will what are you suggesting happen in practice? You have said that it will be voluntary, but, at the end of the day, part of the reason for the concern about this is that the public might be misled. We might be very aware of avian flu, but I would have thought that the majority of consumers out there would not be aware of housing orders or, indeed, avian flu. They select the product, because they like the idea that hens are not being housed and are free range. How will all this happen in practice on supermarket shelves?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Thank you, minister, for attending this morning. That completes our consideration of the instrument.

09:17 Meeting continued in private until 09:34.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Our next item of business is to consider whether to take in private item 5, which is consideration of a draft letter to the Scottish Government regarding our pre-budget scrutiny. Do we agree to take that in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

No, but we hear that all the time in the correspondence that we get. We got the message from the Institute of Auctioneers and Appraisers in Scotland, Scottish Land & Estates, the Scottish Tenant Farmers Association, the National Sheep Association, the Scottish Beef Association and the National Beef Association that they are all in the dark about the consultation in relation to retargeting and rebasing specifically. They feel that they are not being consulted, and they have concerns that, in effect, ARIOB’s terms of reference and its role in all this need to be reviewed.

In addition, you have often referred to the NFUS, but that is only one membership organisation, so there is concern that the consultations and the co-development are not happening at this stage.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Yes, but my question is this: what is the downside of extending the deadline to 2027 instead? What are the negative impacts? What is preventing you from extending it to 2027 rather than 2030?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Okay. Are there any other comments?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Does any member wish to speak on the motion?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

We are not content, so there will be a division.

For

Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP)
Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)

Abstentions

Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)