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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

We have three Rosses—I thought that the Daves were going to be confusing. We have Dave, David and Davy, and we also have Ross, Ross and Euan Ross. [Laughter.]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you. I will bring in Ross MacLeod and then Vicki Swales.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Our third item of business is consideration of consent notifications relating to two UK statutory instruments.

As no members have comments on the notifications, are members content to agree with the Scottish Government’s decision to consent to the provisions that are set out in the notifications being included in UK, rather than Scottish, subordinate legislation?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

That concludes our business in public.

12:06 Meeting continued in private until 12:26.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay. We have arrived at the end of our evidence session on time, which I very much appreciate. I wonder how many Maltesers I get for finishing 15 seconds before our deadline. Thank you all very much for your valued contributions, which will help to form our views when we move towards the stage 1 report.

I suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave and to give members a short comfort break.

12:00 Meeting suspended.  

12:05 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I will throw in another thought: we also need a workforce to deliver this. Where is the workforce with regard to mental health, women in agriculture and new entrants? Should that be an obligation that needs to be considered as part of the plan?

I will bring in Vicki Swales to address that and Ariane Burgess’s point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

To pull the discussion back to the bill and the rural support plan that we are scrutinising just now, is there a way to use the language of section 3 of the bill—the requirement to “have regard to” or the “matters to be considered”—to give more certainty to the forestry sector? Should there be something in the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I will ask you a question about that, because it is an important part of the bill and something we have discussed quite a lot. If we look at the bill that we have in front of us, should there be guidelines on how that front loading—as it might be called, or capping—might look? Are there parameters? It might not be 10 per cent, 20 per cent or whatever, but does the bill need to specify the considerations that need to be taken into account if front loading or capping were to be introduced?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Would anybody else like to comment on the “have regard to” wording? No. In that case, we will move on.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

We will move on to our next theme, which is powers to develop a new agricultural support system, with a question from Ariane Burgess.