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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
Before we move on, I have a question that is still on public bodies’ role in meeting targets. In 2018, the Public Audit and Post-legislative Scrutiny Committee conducted an inquiry into compliance with the biodiversity and biodiversity reporting duties on public bodies. The committee suggested that there was a low level of compliance with the reporting duty, and that was closely linked with a lack of compliance with the biodiversity duty as well. The evidence suggested that there was a lack of awareness of what actions public bodies could and should be taking to comply with the biodiversity duty. Is that still the situation? I suppose that that is a question for NatureScot. Is this still an issue, and is it something that we need to seriously address going forward, or are we at a stage, now, where that information is being provided to public bodies to ensure that they understand their obligations?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
To wrap this up, biodiversity data will be key to the bill’s effectiveness—it will be the fundamental basis for measuring everything. Will organisations and public bodies such as yours look at full cost recovery for the work to collect biodiversity data? For example, when Crown Estate Scotland leases the sea bed for fish farms or offshore wind, will it look at licensing that covers the costs of gathering the biodiversity data as base data and improving that over the time of a project? The same question goes for Scottish Forestry or the commercial side of forestry. Should that cost be passed on? If not, how else will such work be funded? It is obvious that there will not be the capacity financially or in resources generally to deliver the biodiversity data that will be needed.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
We have also heard that the keeping pace powers cover most of the concerns that you raised in your first response to Rhoda Grant. Is that not the case? Do you want to consider that, along with Rhoda’s question?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
Okay.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
We move on to questions from Mark Ruskell.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
That probably takes us on to another question from Mark Ruskell on the current scope of powers in regard to net zero.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
Okay. Thank you.
I asked Brendan Callaghan about the wide provisions in part 2 of the bill and whether they are a sledgehammer to crack a nut. All the witnesses we have heard from up to now would quite like part 2 to be removed altogether. They see no need for it. There are also concerns about there being no overarching environmental safeguards or limitations on how the power in part 2 might be used. Should there be a non-regression provision, or are the safeguards sufficient? If they are not, what would you like to see added? I ask Brendan to kick off, and then I will move on to Katherine Leys and Alex Flucker.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
We might be operating under a Government of a certain colour now, but that might not be the case in a year’s time. Are the necessary safeguards in place to make sure we do not damage nature in the future? That is the angle that I am coming from.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
Is there a risk that we could end up with an endless list, with the focus then on the things that were excluded from the list rather than those that were on it? You could argue that indigenous species or indigenous populations should be protected or that there should be a focus on sustainable economic regeneration or development. Those things are included in other bullet points but they are not specifically set out in the bill. I apologise to any planners who are watching, but we know what planners are like. Could having what appears to be a hierarchy of objectives lead to unintended outcomes? Katherine Leys, is that possible? I presume that the shrug of your shoulders suggests that that could be a possibility.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Finlay Carson
Katherine Leys, it might be one for you, given your experience of national parks and the role that you play.