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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you, minister. I appreciate your opening statement. We move to questions now, and I will kick off. The question is for Joseph Triscott, who is the aquaculture development policy lead in the Government. In our evidence session, we heard stakeholders raise concerns about the unknowns of the impacts on the environment and animal welfare of salmon farms that could be located beyond 3 nautical miles. Following our salmon inquiry, the committee recommended that research be done to look at the impacts on those factors and asked the Government to do some additional work. Do you consider the evidence base to be good enough to support offshore fish and shellfish farms, or is the instrument a little bit premature?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

It is a very thorough fire alarm test by the sound of it, but we are patient. Go ahead, Joe.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

I call Elena Whitham.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

I beg your pardon—it was Emma Harper I was supposed to be going to. I am getting my Emmas and Elenas mixed up this morning.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 7, Against 1, Abstentions 0.

Motion agreed to.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

That concludes consideration of the instrument, and I thank the minister for attending today’s meeting.

I suspend the meeting for 10 minutes, to allow a changeover of witnesses.

09:58 Meeting suspended.  

10:06 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Welcome back. The next item on the agenda is further evidence on the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill. Our first panel of witnesses represents public bodies that will be tasked with helping the Scottish ministers to achieve the targets set in part 1 of the bill or that have a role in the environmental impact assessments or habitats regulations that are covered by part 2 of the bill.

I welcome Mercedes Villalba MSP to this session. I also welcome Annie Breaden from Crown Estate Scotland, Brendan Callaghan from Scottish Forestry, Alex Flucker from the Scottish Environment Protection Agency, Dr Katherine Leys from NatureScot and Dr Chris Tuckett from the Joint Nature Conservation Committee. We have allocated about 90 minutes for the discussion. There are quite a few questions to go through, so I ask for succinct questions and answers. You will not need to operate your microphones, as we have a gentleman here who will do it for you.

I will kick off with a nice, straightforward question. Scotland has consistently failed to meet its biodiversity targets or halt nature decline. Why do you think that statutory biodiversity targets can make a difference and have an impact on that decline?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

How might that fit in? We hear that the forestry sector is continually having to review its practice, and the approach is never particularly long term. You talked about the UK forestry standard, which is reviewed regularly. The Scottish Government might come in to give targets for ecosystem health, or national parks might come in and tell the sector that it needs to achieve X, Y and Z.

Does the bill give you comfort that you might have a more stable target that aims to be achieved over a longer period than five years, which is what the period looks like under the UK forestry standard? Will that give your industry issues with planning for the future or make that easier?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

In that case, we may need to consider amendments that ensure that we avoid those unintended consequences.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Crown Estate Scotland could probably kick off on that.