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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 November 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

You mentioned ARIOB, as you did a number of times at the previous meeting. ARIOB should not be the platform for this type of consultation, because—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

You have just said that there will be no delay in the work that you need to do, and there is no desire for the committee to see that cliff edge being realised. What is the practical issue with extending the deadline to 2027 rather than 2030?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

But you could come back to the committee with—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Are all members content to recommend approval of the instrument?

Members: No.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Ariane Burgess indicated that she wants to come in.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

I just needed to get that on the record.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Okay.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

Finally, is the committee content to delegate authority to me to sign off our report on the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

—to scrutinise them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Finlay Carson

There are certainly plenty of quotations to choose from out of the 19 responses that we received. We need to make it clear that—and I think that I speak for the committee—we do not believe that there is any desire to reach this cliff edge. That is not what the committee wants, nor is it something that we would consider happening.

However, real concerns have been expressed about a lack of proper and broad industry consultation up until now. After all, it has been quite some time since we left Europe. Although NFU Scotland says that LFASS going on until 2030 will allow for “thorough consideration”, frustration and impatience are building across the agricultural industry at the fact that there appears to be no pace when it comes to replacements for LFASS and the schemes.

We are concerned—I certainly am—about the 2030 date. As the minister knows, throughout the passage of the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill, there was a focus on Parliament’s role in scrutinising the secondary legislation. The idea that this committee would be put out by having to look at legislation to extend schemes is ill placed; in fact, the committee would welcome that and would not see it as a waste of time.

One of the committee’s main issues is with the 2030 deadline. Why is the Government not being more ambitious and accelerating the development of plans so that 2030 does not have to be mentioned? We could be looking at a three-year extension to the 2024 deadline.