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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 November 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I think that I speak for the committee when I say that we have a strong desire to do everything possible to protect what we regard as an iconic species. However, there is an annual debate about the regulations and, although we know that they are in place to protect salmon, there are always arguments about how data is collected and analysed. Are you comfortable that, unlike maybe five or six years ago, when there were real concerns about the methodology, we are getting the modelling and the data collection right to ensure that the river gradings are accurate?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I have another question, which is really for the cabinet secretary. Where does protection of wild salmon come on your list of priorities? I ask that in the light of Tim Eagle’s point that only one of 42 recommendations from a report that has been in place for some time has been completed. I am looking at correspondence that we had in 2020, in which stakeholders expressed disappointment in the progress. Are you confident that we are making enough progress? Is the issue a high enough priority? Are we putting enough effort and resources into protecting our wild salmon?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Do you wish to press or withdraw the motion?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

That completes consideration of the instrument. I suspend the meeting until 10:40 to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:27 Meeting suspended.  

10:40 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I am still concerned about the fact that you continue to talk about ring-fenced funding, because the Scottish Government is now totally responsible for budget allocation. No longer can it say that its rural funding is dependent on ring-fenced money coming from Westminster. We have seen a record increase in the block grant; indeed, I think that only once since devolution has the block grant decreased in real terms. The question remains: we are going to have a multiyear rural support plan, but is it not the case that the only way that you can expect anybody to have any confidence in that plan is by having multiyear funding?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I call Tim Eagle, with our next questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Cabinet secretary, although you do not have overall responsibility for NatureScot, you must appreciate that, through its licensing functions, distribution of funds and, as you have touched on, peatland and nature restoration, as well as planning and advisory roles, NatureScot is responsible for areas that affect your portfolio in sectors such as aquaculture and forestry. Therefore, NatureScot’s ability to perform will have a significant impact on your portfolio.

Given that NatureScot has had a 12 per cent cut in cash terms, or a 15 per cent cut in real terms, what discussions do you have about that with your counterpart, the Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy? Obviously, that cut will have a massive impact on the ability to deliver on your ambitions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

That is really helpful. Thank you.

As members have no further questions, we move to the formal consideration of the motion. I invite Jackie Baillie to speak to and move motion S6M-16130.

10:00  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Mr Burgess has indicated that he wishes to come in.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Certainly. We believe that there should be a statutory requirement for stakeholder engagement and co-design at the earliest stage. Your first point was that the Government might be frightened to do all that work on a bill if the Parliament could reject it. I do not think that the answer to that is to produce a draft bill at stage 1 that is so bland and empty that the Parliament is concerned about what powers will be delegated to Scottish ministers in the future. Those powers would not come under the scrutiny that they would get as part of stage 1.

When it comes to stakeholder engagement and co-design, the Parliament’s expectations of the Government must be clear. As I said in my earlier response, some of that co-design and stakeholder engagement has not been as extensive as it might have been. It seemed to focus on certain groups of stakeholders and not on stakeholders in general, which has led to issues around transparency and the argument that, despite the efforts, there was still a vacuum of information in relation to the Government’s direction of travel in the framework bill.