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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I feel that I have heard conflicting messages from the panels this week and last. The ARIOB has said that there is not the required capacity among the agricultural advisers, but Jim Walker said that he could only describe the net zero measures as embarrassing because farmers are already carrying out the audits off their own backs.

If we want farmers to be successful and to be part of meeting the net zero targets, surely the ARIOB should be engaging with them to ensure that they are part of it, rather than creating a new group of people in the middle. We should be bringing the economic benefit back to the farmers Vicki Swales described, although perhaps not in those words. We have heard that some are leading the way but that most of the farmers are not carrying this out. I am really frustrated about this, because it seems as though farmers are the last in the group to get the benefit from this.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Can I get some clarification on that? Would the CCC rather that that percentage of land was grazed?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Okay.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I will bring in Jackie McCreery to allow a fair balance of voices.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

We had better leave it there. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Did you say 60 per cent?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Can I get some clarification? Does the upland that you are talking about, which is being grazed by sheep, have peat?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I just want to pick up on how you answered Jim Fairlie’s question, Chris. Basically, if we look at it in black and white, you are saying that we should cut livestock numbers. You say that you want to support farmers, but cutting livestock numbers is not supporting farmers. However, the CCC also says that offshoring food production is wrong. How are we meant to feed our country?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I will comment on what Jim Walker and Jackie McCreery said. I cannot understand why, when the farmers want clarity and want to understand the future of their farming enterprises, the proposals from the climate change groups were not initially implemented. That remains a mystery to me.

I am interested in two points. First, are the current measures to reach net zero sufficiently supported? Are farmers sufficiently supported by the Scottish Government to implement them? Secondly, how can the proposals for the tier system in the proposed agriculture bill support Scottish farmers to maintain livestock numbers to meet consumer demand while remaining viable and achieving the net zero targets?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Sorry, Chris. On that point, I do not know whether you were able to follow the earlier session, but we took evidence from Claire Simonetta, who is an upland farmer. She said that it looks as though extensive systems are operating inefficiently, but they are not; they are doing everything that they possibly can.

There are two different ways to calculate emissions—the GWP100 and the GWP*—and they are already doing all of that. We could reach a very different conclusion if we got the calculations correct and the Scottish Government started to speed up support and give farmers the right support. We heard examples of that happening in other countries.