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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 October 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

Is the situation similar for you, Lesley?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

Finally, if there is a protest outside one of your facilities, the threat of a protest or awareness that one might be coming up, what does that mean in practice for you? Do you have to do things differently? Do you have to provide different information to people who are accessing the service? What is the impact on you and your staff? How do you deal with the protest or the threat of one?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

Obviously, the issue has been going on for a long time, but it has become much more high profile over the past five years or so. Campaigners initially spoke to the police and local authorities about what could be done locally. The reason why we have ended up where we are is that there is a general belief that the existing law and the powers of councils are not adequate to deal with the issue.

Superintendent Corrigan, will you say a little about the point that, when people have complained to the police in the past, they have received the response that protesters are not breaching any current law and that therefore officers are unable to take enforcement action unless there are very specific behaviours that cross a line?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

If protesters arrive outside a facility and there are complaints and your officers are called, how would officers deal with that under the law as it stands? At the moment, it is entirely legal to stand on the road opposite the Queen Elizabeth university hospital in Glasgow or the Chalmers centre and protest but, very regularly, when protests occur, your officers are called. How long would officers attend for, and what would they be looking for? Would they speak to the protesters about what is and is not allowed and leave again? Would they stay for some time? As it stands, protesters can be there for 40 days. I presume that your officers would not attend all day every day for 40 days. What happens when they are called out?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

I probably did not word that question particularly well. I appreciate entirely that, were the bill to pass, police officers would be asked to do something that is relatively difficult. However, the point that I was trying to get at is that we already ask that of the police in a range of other circumstances, do we not? Some attempt is needed to understand a person’s intent. The example that I am giving is that you can stand silently outside somebody’s house and it is not a crime but that, if you are doing it as part of a pattern of behaviour of stalking and harassing the individual in that house, that is part of an offence. We already ask police officers to make such judgments in the first instance. Obviously, we then ask the procurator fiscal and the courts.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

I will pick up on a couple of Ivan McKee’s questions.

Colin Poolman—my first question is for you and is about the impact on trade union activity, short of picketing. I accept what you said about none of us being able to think of an instance where there has been industrial action at a facility that provides abortion services. However, at other settings in which your members have taken industrial action across the UK, is it common to get complaints from patients about a perceived impact on them on entering a facility if there is a picket line outside?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

Professor Cameron, following up on what you said in response to Ivan McKee about the support that is provided, those who engage in protests say that one of their key reasons for doing so is that they are providing a discussion about alternatives to abortion that they do not believe is provided in healthcare settings. Will you expand on your answer to Ivan McKee about the process and the support that is available to women who come seeking abortion or reproductive healthcare services?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

You mentioned the most commonly handed-out leaflet, which committee members are aware of and which includes misinformation about things such as the risk of breast cancer. Have you seen examples of that having an impact after it has been handed to a woman who is seeking an abortion? Have your staff had to have a discussion other than the one that was expected because of concerns about information in the leaflet?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Ross Greer

The next revision or update to the plan is due relatively soon. If you would share with the committee any submission or proposal that you make to the Government on that, we would find that valuable for the purposes of our inquiry.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Ross Greer

Suzi, you said that you welcome the ASL action plan but that there is frustration about the lack of progress. I want to tease out that issue with you. If others on the panel have a perspective on it, it would be useful also to hear from them. Is the issue that the plan is good but it is not being implemented quickly enough or well enough, or is it that, even if we implement everything in the plan, we will not make the progress that is required? The solutions to those two things will be different. If the plan is the problem, we can revise it, but if the plan is good and the issue is its implementation, the committee will need to understand what the barriers to that are.