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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 December 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

I will start with a question for Sarah Wallage and Lesley Sharkey, if that is okay. I will repeat a question that I put to the previous panel—I am not sure whether you caught that section of the discussion. I am interested in your views on the misinformation that protesters outside clinics share. The committee is aware of the most common leaflet, which includes misinformation about the risk of breast cancer, and the impact that that has not just on people who access services but on your staff. Do your staff need to have conversations to reassure patients about what they have seen in those leaflets? One of the protesters’ core arguments is that they offer information on alternative support that they do not believe is on offer inside your facilities.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

It has been mentioned that the protests are largely, but not entirely, concentrated in Glasgow and Edinburgh but, because of social media as well as news coverage, people are aware of them throughout the country. Even at facilities where protests rarely or never take place, do you find that women who seek to access your services are aware of the protests? Do they perceive a risk? Is there worry and concern on their part that the day that they turn up to access your services might be the day that 40 Days for Life is there?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

To clarify, what if people were doing that from a public highway rather than from a private property?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

Dr Provan, what is your response to the protesters’ claim that what they are doing is providing alternative support and information?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

I want to follow up on the point about silent prayer and intent so that I understand it correctly. I am trying to figure out how unprecedented the proposals are, because that is the argument that some folk are making. I understand that the comparison that I am drawing is not like for like, because it concerns stalking and harassment. It is not illegal to stand silently outside somebody else’s house, but my understanding is that, if you are doing it as part of a pattern of behaviour in which you are stalking the individual, that is already an offence under the law. Police officers are already being asked to make judgments about intent in not entirely dissimilar circumstances, are they not?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

That is useful. I asked that partly so that I could understand just how unprecedented the proposals would be, given my lack of familiarity with other areas of the law.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

Would you like to add to that, Dr Wallage?

10:30  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

That takes us neatly on to Gerry Corrigan and the impact on the police, but I believe that colleagues will cover that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

In the previous evidence session, Professor Cameron gave us the example of images being projected on to a facility from a distance. I understand that you might not want to talk about specific incidents that have happened in the past but, in general, are your officers currently able to take any action if somebody is projecting images of a fetus or anti-abortion messages—whatever it might be—on to a hospital from a distance? Obviously, buildings have windows, and some of those images would enter the facility.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ross Greer

That is really useful. Thank you.