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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ross Greer

On exactly that, far from being perfect, council tax has not been in date in my lifetime, and I am now 30. Would you like to see revaluation in the current parliamentary session?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ross Greer

Thanks very much. I will return to the PFG, which the cabinet secretary presented a pretty rosy picture of. You argued that the inclusion is implicit rather than explicit, and you seemed to indicate that that was a deliberate choice. You made the point that the First Minister’s four priorities match the outcomes in the NPF and of course they do, because they are all very agreeable. The only reason why somebody would disagree is if they were a climate science denier; beyond that, it is all agreeable stuff.

However, it was a significant omission that the single most important document in the Government did not refer to the framework that the Government uses to measure whether it is building the kind of society that it wants. Would it not be easier to come here and say that that was an oversight and that it will not happen again?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Megan Farr made a point a moment ago—Gavin Yates or Garvin Sealy mentioned it, too, I think—about the fact that qualifications Scotland staff cannot make up a majority on a committee, although they could make up 49 per cent of it. Would you suggest amending the bill to have a lower cap on the proportion of the committee who can be staff of qualifications Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Good morning. There is an interesting section in the Unite response that I will pick up on a wee bit. I will quote it so that I am not getting it wrong. You said that the bill, as it currently stands,

“does not recognise the importance of Qualification Regulation in relation to the protection of the learner. There is nothing in the Bill that would strengthen regulation of qualifications in Scotland and this is a missed opportunity.”

In the first instance, can you expand on what you see as being weaknesses in the current regulation system? It sounds like you do not think that the system, as it currently stands, is strong enough, and that the bill has been a missed opportunity. Before we talk about how to strengthen it, it would be helpful for the committee if you could give us a bit of background on why you think that the current system is not delivering as much as it could.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Thank you very much. Unless anybody has anything to add, that is all from me.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

That is a useful point. Understandably, we are paying a lot of attention to who will be on the committee, but any representative structure such as that will have, at best, a handful of people from each group and probably just one young person or learner. That is a point about wider participation and engagement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

I am sorry to cut across you, but on the wider point about engagement with your members and, in particular, the team of 20 that you mentioned, there is a question of consultation on the bill and on the operating model that is being developed for the body. To what extent were your members engaged in relation to the drafting of the bill, and to what extent are they being engaged as we proceed with the development of the operating model? A lot of the organisational arrangements should not be in legislation, because that limits flexibility, but it is essential that your members are consulted on that as well. It does not sound as though that is happening, if I have picked you up correctly.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Thanks, convener. One of the proposals to resolve the situation is to move the accreditation option into HMIE, because one of the Government’s key objections to separating the functions has been the cost of creating a new public body. Ken McAra, would moving the accreditation function into HMIE be a solution, or would that cause other issues? Would we be resolving one arguable conflict of interests by creating another one?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

There has already been quite a bit of discussion about the influence that young people can or cannot have on the structure, so I do not want to cover too much of that ground. I am interested in any suggestions that you might have for specific amendments that could be made to the bill.

Megan Farr, you have already mentioned the difference between someone representing the interests of learners or young people and actually having a requirement for there to be either a learner or, better yet, a young person rather than an adult, on the committee. Would you suggest any other specific amendments to the bill to strengthen the ability for young people in particular to participate and have an influence? I would also like to hear any thoughts that you have about adult learners and, in your case Gavin Yates, about parents and carers.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Thank you—that was useful.