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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

The MTFS sets out four broad categories for spending. You have already covered quite a bit around public service reform and efficiency. The other two categories are about increasing the value and impact of public spend and preventative spend, which has been a perennial issue that we have discussed with you before.

I have a two-part question on increasing the value of public spending and preventative spend. Looking back at recent MTFSs, have you seen any trajectory of improvement in how the Scottish Government approaches maximising value for public money in its spending and preventative spending? Looking ahead, do you have any evidence that the Government has clear plans to improve its score on both of those counts?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

I agree.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

I am glad to hear that. This is a discussion for another time, and we have talked about it before, but I do not think that it is appropriate that, for example, shooting estates that are owned by some of the wealthiest people in the world benefit from the small business bonus scheme, when there are many genuine small businesses in Scotland that require more support.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

One specific thing beyond the briefing—the UK Government has consulted on it and the direction of travel is clear—is not the abolition or replacement of landfill tax but the significant reform of having a single rate for it. Have you modelled any impact from the proposals that are in the UK Government’s consultation?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

I was proud to vote for all those budgets and proud that my party collaborated with yours on them. We have made significant progress compared with the rest of the UK, but all the efforts that we have made so far have got us only to this point, where the top 2 per cent own more than the bottom 50 per cent. Clearly, there is a need to go further. I am looking for a sense of what the Scottish Government thinks those next steps are.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

I appreciate that. I was not specifically heading to a wealth tax proposal, although I agree with everything that you said about the support for it in principle and the practical challenges of implementing it. However, I take it from your answer that the Scottish Government is not satisfied with the current levels of wealth inequality in Scotland.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

It is a few million pounds, but I suggest that it is a few million pounds that would be better spent elsewhere.

I will move on to another area. High levels of inequality are harmful to public finances because they are harmful to the economy at large. Normal people spend their money in the economy, which generates tax revenue and has a net positive effect. The very wealthiest people in society tend to be less productive with their wealth. Much of it is offshored or holed up in assets that are not used productively. Last week, you published statistics showing that the richest 2 per cent of households in Scotland have more wealth than the bottom 50 per cent combined. In the Scottish Government’s view, is that an unacceptable level of wealth inequality?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

It seems that I am putting on my greatest hits, so I have one more, which was teed up by what you said about the Opposition parties’ response any time that something is put forward.

I have every sympathy with the Government’s position at budget time, when Opposition parties demand increased spending but will not say where the money should come from. You have heard me say that the highest quality budget debate that we have ever had in the Parliament was in 2017-18, when the Government invited all parties to put forward tax proposals and have them costed by the SFC. Given that there is only one budget left before the next election, will the Government take that same approach and invite all five Opposition parties to publish their own proposals, so that they can all be costed by the SFC and, at that point, scrutinised by the Parliament?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ross Greer

Okay. It was worth a try.