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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

First, I am talking about the first OECD report, which suggests that the SQA, or an equivalent body, should be merged with the curriculum body. In your experience, do you think that that would be a good move?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

What is your expectation? Do you expect grades to return to normal?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

However, do you think that the initial recommendation—to move the exam assessment part of our system in with the curriculum part—is right?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

Do you not think that, in fairness, learners deserve to know whether their grades are likely to reflect those from previous years or those from the two exceptional years with which you have said that comparisons cannot be made?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

I am not asking about ministers. Given your professional experience as someone who has headed up Scotland’s exam body, if anyone was going to stand up for exams and make the case that what we are doing at the moment is right, it would probably be you. Is there another side to the story that the Parliament should think about? Do you think that those recommendations are right?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

My final question reflects on one of those issues, although I am not enthusiastic about asking it. I absolutely believe that all young people deserve the grades that they have got in the past two years, and people feel positive about seeing young people from more challenging backgrounds do better than they have in the past. I would like to see that continue, but are there unintended consequences of grade inflation? Do you think that we should be mindful of that?

It is not a popular subject to talk about, but does that bring other challenges with regard to what a qualifications body should be doing? That goes back to my previous question about whether—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

In 2020, you pushed for the algorithmic element to keep grades where they would have been expected to be. Do you think that that is important in the system—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

They are worse than the grades in 2020.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

So, over the year, we have had more time to get the ACM organised and, in that time, people from the most challenging communities have been disadvantaged. Is that the case, or has the system just adjusted back to what we would normally see?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Oliver Mundell

And no one was going to second guess it? It sounds to me as though the process was trying to arrive at the grades you would have expected.