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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Greene

I can.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Greene

Thank you—you have answered the question perfectly. The premise was whether this could be addressed through changes to guidelines rather than through statutory changes that are, if you like, a bit more forceful or permanent. The question is: are we exhausting all the opportunities that guidelines might present before we take these bigger steps? I think that you have answered that, though, so thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Greene

The problem is that that could be anyone. Is that your point?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Greene

I do not disagree with that. The reality, though, is that, as we heard in the first answer, it is all very well saying that someone has a designated mentor, but if that is not backed up by core services—if there are no houses, no skills and training provision and no mental health services—the relationship is helpful, but it is not enough in itself.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Greene

That is probably a question rather than an answer. It is a much wider point, and I hope that you will all be able to input into the solution. I really appreciate those responses.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Greene

Convener, can I make a comment?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Greene

Good morning, and thank you for joining us remotely.

I will start with a follow-up question to Russell Findlay’s opening question, and I will start with Lynne Thornhill, as she was the last to speak—apologies for that. You said that some people are being remanded who should not be. Will you elaborate on that a little? Are you talking about types of offences or types of people? Are you saying that sheriffs are working with the wrong criteria or that they are working with the right criteria but are making the wrong decisions?

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Greene

Just for clarification, then, is it the Scottish Government’s position that any form of reconciliation that offered amnesty to individuals, irrespective of their background or circumstance, would be a matter subject to a more fundamental principle of disagreement? In short, is it the Government’s position that such a process should not take place? Moreover, is it the Government’s position, therefore, that the independent commission would not, in that sense, be truly independent?

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Greene

I am not sure, convener, how much of that correspondence can be made available to the committee either privately or publicly or to the wider public with an interest in it, but that communication would certainly be helpful, as, indeed, would any response from the United Kingdom Government to the Lord Advocate or the Scottish Government, in so far as it is appropriate. I also note that a letter was sent by the Parliament’s Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee to the UK Government in, I think, early November, but I am not sure whether that committee has had a response either. Certainly, all of that in the round would help committee members in future.

Cabinet secretary, I am pleased to hear you at least making it sound as if a constructive conversation could be had. However, as you have said, you can judge this only on the merits of what you have in front of you today, and I understand that. Thank you very much for your time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Greene

I have a request for information. I wonder whether the clerks could perhaps assist us in liaising with the SPA or Police Scotland. In today’s press coverage pack, there were a few articles relating to statistical data around exit surveys. The figure that was quoted is that one in five officers have exited the force because of the effect of the job on their health, mental, physical or otherwise. Those articles point towards freedom of information data that had been requested and subsequently published. That sort of information would be helpful to the committee—20 per cent is quite a high statistic—rather than our just taking what we read in the newspapers at face value. The two stories in The Times and The Scotsman are clearly from the same source.

I wonder whether we could get that information, provided that it would not breach individuals’ confidentiality. If the numbers are low, for example, that would be difficult, but I would really like the police to be transparent about their exit surveys and their findings when people leave the force, retire early or leave for health reasons and have not just come to the natural end of their career. That information might help to back up all the points that have been made today about the scale of the problem. One in five officers is a huge number. It should be a concern if the statistics that we read in the newspapers are true. I wonder whether we can ask for more information about that.