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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jamie Greene

He was not under investigation, but he was clearly under a lot of pressure to respond to a very serious allegation by Audit Scotland about corporate governance. While that process was going on, and you were, I presume, waiting on a response, he handed in his notice. He was required to give you six months’ notice so, rather than have him hanging around for six months, was he allowed to leave with immediate effect and a six-month pay-off?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Jamie Greene

This is a wide-ranging report, but I appreciate that we are short of time, so I will focus on specific areas, particularly the operational performance of the NHS, which affects the public more than some of the other issues.

The first obvious area to cover is where we are on waiting time targets. In that respect, the report makes grim reading. Albeit that the exhibit goes up only to September 2023, it seems to me that none of the eight key metrics on performance against waiting times is being met, and that some are failing by quite some margin—in particular, accident and emergency treatment times, the standard that cancer treatment should start within 62 days, and the 12-week in-patient and out-patient targets. What is your general view on whether things are getting slightly better or whether the long-term trend, certainly from 2018 to now, has been a trajectory of increased waiting times?

Public Audit Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

My next question is on that—do not worry.

Public Audit Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

That sounds good. Thank you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

That is interesting. Other pieces of legislation going through other committees are looking at the remand issue. Certainly, in any interactions that I have had with the judiciary, there is very much a feeling that remand is used as a last resort, with the presumption against releasing people when they are charged and go back to court.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

Would you recommend that if that were the case?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

Indeed. I am sure that we could have a whole session on whether public services are fit for purpose once people are released, and another one on rehabilitation and what we are doing right or not doing right in Scotland.

My final point is a grave one: deaths in custody. Across prisons and other forms of custody, it is estimated that there are around four deaths per week. Those are not solely in prisons, of course, but a worryingly large number of people are dying in the different levels of the prison estate. Is that part of your watching brief? Do you have any views on that, or have you performed any analysis of why those numbers are so high? Have you made any recommendations to the Prison Service or to ministers on how that number can be reduced?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

No, I commend you for the work that you have done. However, clearly, all that work will be made more difficult with an increasing population, an antiquated estate and the lack of resource and assistance.

Public Audit Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

Good morning. I will start with the basics. From your briefing, it seems that Scotland has two issues: sluggish growth in gross domestic product, and low productivity. Is that assertion correct?

Public Audit Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Jamie Greene

That reflects the complexity of our respective roles in this area: on the one hand, using public money and Government intervention in certain areas in which the Government chooses to do so; and, on the other, using that as leverage to improve the wider economic outlook in the private sector, in which small and medium-sized businesses, for example, are part of the solution.

I want to touch on the very short mention that is made, on page 14 of your briefing, of the new deal for business that the Scottish Government has touted. Would you say that it is facing a bit of an uphill struggle with that? Last year, independent analysis by commentators such as the Fraser of Allander Institute predicted a less than favourable outlook for that relationship. By August of last year, the Fraser of Allander Institute was saying that only 9 per cent of Scottish businesses believed that the Government understood the business environment that they worked in. In certain sectors, such as hospitality, construction and professional services, there was a huge differential. Between 50 and 90 per cent of businesses there believed that the Scottish Government did not understand their environment.

That is the backdrop that the Government is up against, and that is the uphill struggle that it faces. It is very early to tell, but is there any evidence that the new deal for business is working or has been reset?