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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Right. Has anyone who has run a board that has had such high-level escalation or intervention moved to another board?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Yes, please check that and write to us.
We talked a little bit in the earlier session about the importance of the role of the non-executive board in holding the executive to account in any public body or organisation. If someone has been part and parcel of that organisation for a long period of time, although I can see that they may bring knowledge and experience of that sector to their non-exec role, are they simply too close to the system and the people involved in it to be able to hold them properly to account in terms of governance arrangements?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Yes, we heard some good examples of that as well, which is great. There is, however, an issue. There is a 25 per cent failure rate in the first round of recruitment at the highest level. That is one in four vacancies where there is a failure to appoint a candidate. That is an extremely high number relative to other parts of the public sector. Why is it so bad?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Yes, the aspiring chairs programme was mentioned and it seems to be reaping some degree of success as a pipeline generating new entrants and bringing people up the chain. That is particularly helpful.
However, the issues of time commitment and remuneration were first brought up in the 2021 survey. We are four years on from that. Those are not new issues, yet many boards are still struggling.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
I think that you would find it very enlightening. We talked about that subject in great detail, and committee members raised the point that people jumping from one board to another could be seen as a revolving door, a reward for failure or the result of having a cosy club of chief executives who move on to another board for more money and leave others in the lurch.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
It sounds as though there is a bit of movement of professionals within the Scottish health service or the health and social care arena who will go from an IJB to an executive role within an NHS board, from one board to another, or from a management position on a board into a non-exec position on a board. Again, I can see why there may be benefits to that. People will have experience and knowledge of how things are done in other areas. However, equally, does that perhaps point to some problematic areas? People have perhaps failed in one part of the service and are moving to another, or is the predicament that we do not have enough new blood coming from outside Scotland into the Scottish health service?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
We also heard a lot in the previous session about some of the struggles that some of our more rural boards have in recruiting people. Indeed, the convener gave an excellent example of one board where some of the board members do not live in, or had never been to, the board area. Clearly, it is more difficult in a wide range of public bodies to recruit in more rural and Highlands and island areas, but how important is it that these people have local knowledge and understanding of the complexities of delivering health services outside the central belt?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Good. I think that I know what your answer will be to this, but are we struggling to get so many candidates to fill these board positions because there are simply too many boards?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Thank you very much.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
Jamie Greene
Let me bring you back to some financial questions. Mr Black, you have stated three times over the course of this morning—it is also in your written submission—that you are keen to stress that Balfour Beatty has absorbed the cost of the remediation work on the funicular. I presume that Balfour Beatty has not sprouted a charitable arm. In what circumstances is it undertaking that work? Presumably, it was paid to do it—that is why you are telling us that.