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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 January 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Thank you.

10:32

Meeting suspended.

10:35

On resuming—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Welcome back, committee members. Agenda item 3 is consideration of the report, “Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and the briefing, “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”, which have been submitted to us by Audit Scotland.

I welcome our witnesses: Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General for Scotland; Carol Calder, audit director at Audit Scotland; and Adam—forgive me; perhaps you can help me out with the pronunciation of your surname.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Do you think that delayed discharges can ever be eliminated, or is that an impossible ambition? Delayed discharges can be reduced, for sure; there is clearly evidence that that can happen when approaches work well. Carol Calder spoke about some examples of good practice. Nevertheless, while the level of delayed discharges can be reduced, they can never truly be eliminated. Are we, therefore, just setting ourselves up for failure in trying to fix the problem? Is it simply baked into the processes of the entire health and social care system?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Yes—that has been well iterated in your report.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Can you clarify whether all boards are signed up to—was 11 the number that you mentioned earlier?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Yes. Is it 11 boards that are signed up to that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

That is very much appreciated, Auditor General.

On that note, we will conclude this item. It remains for me to thank you, Mr Boyle, Auditor General, as well as Adam Bullough, Malcolm Bell and Carol Calder for joining us and giving us evidence, which we have found extremely helpful. The committee and future committees will, no doubt, take a close interest in the issue. We also look forward to the Accounts Commission’s report on integration authorities, which is due out soon.

I now move the meeting into private session.

11:41

Meeting continued in private until 12:07.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Good morning, everyone. I welcome you to the third meeting in 2026 of the Public Audit Committee. We have received apologies this morning from our convener, Richard Leonard—as deputy convener, I will deputise for him. We have also received apologies from Joe FitzPatrick, who is unable to join us. We are small but still quorate in number, and we have a lot of business to get through.

Agenda item 1 is to decide whether the committee will take items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Thank you. You alluded to having observed our last evidence session on this subject on 10 December. Some of your colleagues from The Promise Scotland, along with representatives of the Scottish Government and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, were witnesses on the panel. They were asked whether they whole-heartedly accepted all recommendations contained in the Audit Scotland report. For clarification, do you whole-heartedly accept those recommendations?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

To be clear, do you mean that the report could have gone further in its recommendations or in the work that was undertaken?