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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Jamie Greene

You should try it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Jamie Greene

There is access.

We are very short on time. My last question is on page 3 of the Audit Scotland briefing, which gives a statistic for dedicated ASL provision. It is quite a low statistic, which is why I am asking about it. It says that 20 per cent of all schools—about 460—have “dedicated” ASL provision, to use the terminology of the briefing. However, that seems a very low number of schools when, presumably, the need for ASL is prevalent in all schools. Talk me through that.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Jamie Greene

The one area that we do not really have time to address, but which deserves more time, is how we support teachers and schools to deliver on this agenda. We are very short on time, but I will ask Mr Rennick a question. In 2021, the Scottish Government made an explicit and overt commitment to increase the number of teachers by 3,500 by the end of this parliamentary session, and, in particular, the number of pupil support assistants by 500. Could you give us a progress update on that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Jamie Greene

Thank you for raising the Hayward review.

All three reviews—the Morgan, the Muir and the Hayward reviews—are helpful, but, next month, it will be five years since the Morgan review was published. There is therefore a sense of frustration that only 53 of the 76 recommendations have been implemented. It is taking a long time. The fact that we have also known that the problem has been on the increase for a long time has perhaps driven some of the lines of questioning this morning.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Jamie Greene

They are, but 27 per cent of pupils in East Lothian are designated as having additional support needs because of behavioural difficulties, and we know that violence in classrooms is on the increase and has been for a number of years. I appreciate that the majority of pupils go to school and behave well, and are brought up well—I understand that. However, in this case, we are looking at ASL, and there is clearly a category of people who are struggling.

That leads to outcomes, the work on which by Audit Scotland I am intrigued by. We know that pupils with additional support needs have lower attendance rates and higher exclusion rates, and there is a 20 per cent gap in curriculum for excellence level outcomes, as well as lower positive destination rates. Those pupils are performing poorly on a number of metrics, and that cannot be acceptable, can it?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jamie Greene

How do we balance that with the risk of people perceiving those measures as plugging big holes in council finances, albeit with the right intention? Environmental intentions would be seen as laudable and would garner cross-party support. However, is there a concern that, if the perception is that the money raised from those so-called punitive measures is not ring fenced and is not reinvested in active or sustainable travel or in other improvements to roads or public services, the additional measures that big cities are asking for will raise huge amounts of money that will go into the black hole of local government?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jamie Greene

That is a helpful tone. What do you mean by unnecessary?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jamie Greene

That is very helpful. What engagement have you had with the new UK Government about potential capital funding for transport infrastructure projects in Scotland? What has the response been to any requests?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jamie Greene

I know that she has a sore throat.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jamie Greene

I know that, so I will try to spread my questions across the panel. I do have quite a lot of ground to cover, though, and I am afraid that you are first up, cabinet secretary.

I want to take you right back to the beginning of the session, when the convener asked whether you accept not just the report’s recommendations but its content and findings. Turning to paragraph 1 on page 3, which sets out the first of the key messages, I think that the first two sentences are fair in talking about transport as a source of greenhouse gas emissions and the “ambitious” nature of the target in the first place. Just for the record, is there anything else in that paragraph that you agree with? That was very unclear from your first answer. Do you agree with the rest of that paragraph?