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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Finally, I call Maurice Golden.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

My final observation, which is directed to the cabinet secretary for health, is on priorities. Cabinet secretary, you have talked about the weeks in the past month or so being some of the most challenging that you have had in the pandemic, and we all know about the issues with recovery in the longer term and with need, whether it be waiting times or whatever. You can understand, therefore, why cultural cross-portfolio working might not be high on the priority list for a health board or for the Government more generally, and I suppose that I am making a plea that, notwithstanding all these understandable pressures that the health service is under, we maintain our focus on culture and highlight its importance and the importance of the mainstreaming that we have spoken about as we move forward.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Good morning, and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2022 of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. We have received apologies from the convener, so, as deputy convener, I will chair the meeting. We have also received apologies from Mark Ruskell.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take item 4, a work programme paper, in private. Does the committee agree to take that paper in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Item 2 is further consideration of the Scottish Government’s resource spending review. We are joined by an online panel of witnesses: Kirsty Cumming, who is chief executive of Community Leisure UK; Duncan Dornan, who is head of museums and collections at Glasgow Life; and Carol Calder, who is interim audit director from the performance audit and best value team in Audit Scotland. I welcome you all to the meeting.

I will start with a couple of questions. The first is for all three of you. There has been criticism in the past—especially from our predecessor committee in 2019—about the lack of consistency in local authority approaches to interpreting what is meant by

“adequate provision ... for recreational, sporting, cultural and social activities”.

What is your understanding of the phrase “adequate provision”? Do you feel that it has been interpreted inconsistently?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

How is it being interpreted in Glasgow, in your experience?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Is it fair to say that you sense that they should be able to work together and that you have found no evidence of there being an overlap or duplication, or any kind of tension?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Does either of our other witnesses want to comment on the local authority approach, the national approach and the interplay between them?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

I will pose a question to the health secretary that I posed to the cabinet secretary for the constitution a few months ago. There are examples of good practice, and you gave some examples of programmes relating to culture that exist, but it strikes me that we need a paradigm shift, particularly in primary care, for example. How do we get GPs to prescribe a trip to a gallery, a museum or an arts event of some sort? How do we achieve that shift in mentality? We can all think of good anecdotal examples of that happening, but it strikes me that we need a much greater system shift. Do you have any views on that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

That is very helpful. Kirsty Cumming, do you have any observations on that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Donald Cameron

I am normally well up for a big conceptual discussion like that, but I think that in the time available we will move on to Alasdair Allan.