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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

Donald Cameron

Thank you. Finally, I put the same question goes to our witness in the room, Ian Forrester QC.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

Donald Cameron

Do you have any observations, Dr Zuleeg?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

Donald Cameron

I will ask about the policy content and operation of the TCA—particularly when it touches on devolved policy areas. Can each witness think of examples of where the TCA might have a practical impact on devolved policy areas? Do they foresee flashpoints in those areas? I will start with Fabian Zuleeg.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Legislative Consent after Brexit

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Donald Cameron

I do not find the British constitution offensive, but Alasdair Allan makes a good point. There is a wider question about the utility of conventions—not just Sewel—and I would be fascinated to know what our witnesses think about that.

I was quite struck by something that Professor Page said, and this is perhaps a contrarian view, but are we in danger of overstating the problem? Undoubtedly we have had some very high-profile examples of the convention under strain, particularly around Brexit but, day in, day out, when we see legislative consent motions here in the Parliament, mostly on secondary legislation, that is relatively uncontroversial. In fact, LCMs go through the Parliament almost without a vote, having been agreed between the Scottish and the UK Governments, and it is just as a matter of administrative practicality and in everyone’s interest for that to happen. I put that to our witnesses.

Lastly, this is a question for the lawyers in the room. We have had some recent decisions, particularly in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child case, where the courts have quite firmly taken a view and have restated section 28(7) of the Scotland Act 1998 on the UK Government’s ability to legislate “for Scotland”, I think it says. That is not directly on Sewel, but does it have any bearing on a court’s view of these various issues?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Legislative Consent after Brexit

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Donald Cameron

That is a very interesting point. Here in Scotland, the argument is often about whether something is reserved or devolved. We had a legislative consent motion in the chamber on the Nationality and Borders Bill, where the UK Government’s position was that consent was not required because the bill did not touch on devolved areas. The Scottish Government’s position was that, in practice, it did. There was an argument about it and we voted on it. Often, as you said, at issue is not just the application of the convention, but an argument about where the limits sit.

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Parliamentary Partnership Assembly

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Donald Cameron

I do not have much to add. I will reinforce what the convener said about the events, certainly on the first day, being overshadowed by the dispute about the Northern Ireland protocol, which I think was a great shame. However, it was good to be there in person and to be in the same room as delegates from the UK Parliament and the European Parliament.

There were some practical suggestions about how things might develop thereafter, rather than just a general discussion. There was talk about working groups being set up to look at specific policy areas, which would be a good thing from my point of view.

As the convener said, there were two very good sessions, one on EU-UK co-operation on defence and intelligence in relation to Ukraine, and another excellent session on energy and co-operation, particularly around things such as new energy technologies.

All in all, it was a worthwhile and fascinating visit.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Donald Cameron

I understand that.

I turn to Elaine Ritchie for the perspective from Perth and Kinross Council.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Donald Cameron

This might be an impossible question to answer because of all the variables that you described but, if everything goes to plan, what kind of timeframe are we talking about between an application being made and all the boxes being ticked? The answer might be, “How long is a piece of string?”

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Donald Cameron

Finally, I put that question to Pat Togher. I appreciate that it is a slightly different issue for you, given that you represent a health and social care partnership. Do you have any observations on the practical issues that people face?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Donald Cameron

I have one final question, which is for Gayle Findlay. It is on a slightly different issue, which is any differences that there might be between the supersponsor scheme and the scheme for private individuals applying under the homes for Ukraine system. We learned yesterday from the minister that 570 visas have been granted under the Scottish Government’s supersponsor scheme and 1,050 visas have been granted under the private individual route. You touched on that in talking about housing, but are there any other differences in terms of how that is managed?