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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

On a related point, the programme for government mentions the

“development of a new funding model for post-school education provision”,

which will include improving parity of financial support for flexible and part-time study. What progress has been made on that? What timescales are you working to, and what is the impact on the budget?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand your answer, but I wonder whether you can clarify something. Given that the programme for government is very recent, one would have thought that, before such an announcement was made, some budgetary provision would have been made—a ballpark figure, at least. Was that not done?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

Just to be clear, will there be a negative consequence for councils if teacher numbers do not increase?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning. I have a couple of questions on pupil equity funding. It seems that you are absolutely right that PEF is making a significant difference, but the amount is £130 million—give or take some—which is the same as last year. Had the amount increased with inflation, it would be about £145 million. What does the Government think will be the practical impact of what is, in effect, a reduction in funding, and how will you ensure that local authorities are sufficiently resourced, given that £15 million shortfall?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

Indeed. Last December, £46 million of resource funding was promised to colleges and universities, but the money was withdrawn to fund other aspects of the education portfolio. Is there any intention to bring that £46 million back? In any event, what will happen to the college and university projects that it was intended to resource?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand. I will just press that point. Cabinet secretary, more philosophically, do you think that eligibility for free school meals is the best measure on which to decide levels of need in a school and area? Perhaps there is a better way that you might move to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

I presume, though, that if, as you have said, it was designed for strategic change, that change, which was clearly felt to be necessary, cannot go ahead if the resource is not there.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Liam Kerr

On that exact point, some would argue that the focus on teacher numbers is a very blunt instrument. To focus on the numbers, the committee heard last week that there are 300 fewer maths teachers and 300 fewer English teachers than there were in 2008. That masks the reality of what is happening on the ground. What are you doing to recognise that? Is there a more sophisticated way than the raw numbers to approach that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Liam Kerr

I would like to investigate some areas of capital expenditure. Do any of you have a view on the design of the Scottish Government’s learning estate investment programme, particularly given that, I presume, local authorities pay the up-front costs of that?