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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Kevin, do you wish to add anything or ask any questions?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

The big challenge will come from implementing those duties in practice; we will come back to that.

Who would like to go next?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

People will be at the table because they will be legally obliged to come to the table, but will what they deliver and discuss at the table go far enough? You will come up with a plan, and I hear what you say about guidance playing a big part, but does the bill mean that what you will have to deliver will make a tangible difference to community wealth building? Or will it depend on the guidance? Is there anything that we need to consider to strengthen the bill to make sure that there is not just a plan with all the bodies at the table but a plan that will deliver a tangible difference to community wealth building?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Item 2 is the committee’s first evidence session as part of our scrutiny of the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. The bill will place a duty on Scottish ministers to publish a community wealth building statement that sets out the measures that they will take to facilitate community wealth building. It will also require local authorities and relevant public bodies to publish and implement a CWB plan for their area, and it will require specified public bodies to have due regard to CWB guidance when developing their corporate plans and associated delivery strategy.

The committee received 97 responses to its call for written views, and I put on record my thanks to those who took the time to contribute; their input will help us to shape our consideration of the bill.

I note that members of the committee visited Alloa last month, and I thank Clackmannanshire Council for facilitating a positive discussion with local organisations about their experiences of delivering community wealth building in practice. I thank all those who spoke to us during what was a very good session. On Monday, committee members will visit Irvine to meet representatives of local businesses and organisations in order to hear about their experiences of community wealth building in practice and their views on the bill.

This is the first of four oral evidence sessions on the bill. I am pleased to welcome Professor Oliver Escobar, of the University of Edinburgh; Councillor Ellen Forson, leader of Clackmannanshire Council; and Neil McInroy, chair of the Economic Development Association Scotland. I thank you all for joining us.

As always, I appeal to members and witnesses to keep questions and answers as concise as possible. I will kick off with a set of straightforward questions. Do you believe that the bill will achieve its purpose of implementing community wealth building nationwide? If it delivers on that purpose, will it make a difference? Is legislation necessary, given the work that is already taking place in communities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

That brings us to the end of the evidence session. I say a big thank you to our witnesses for your insights. You have been incredibly helpful in kicking off our scrutiny, and it is very much appreciated.

I suspend the meeting very briefly before we move on to the next item.

11:35 Meeting suspended.  

11:40 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I pose the same question to other members of the panel. Do you think that the statutory obligations in the bill go far enough to ensure that the plan will deliver a tangible difference?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I was a councillor for 10 years, and when I cleared my desk, one of the biggest pieces of work involved clearing out all the plans and strategies from over the years. Local government has no shortage of plans, and a lot of good work is taking place on those already. Councils need no encouragement to produce more plans, and simply placing on them a statutory obligation to deliver another plan will not be effective.

Do you think that the statutory obligations in the bill that require councils to produce a plan go far enough to ensure that those plans will make a meaningful, tangible difference to community wealth building? Does the bill go far enough to specify what needs to be in those plans in order to ensure that they deliver big changes?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Good morning, and welcome to the 18th meeting in 2025 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. We have apologies from Jamie Halcro Johnston.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 4, on consideration of evidence, and item 5, on consideration of correspondence, in private. Are members content to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Item 3 is consideration of a negative Scottish statutory instrument. No member has lodged a motion to annul the instrument, and no one has indicated that they wish to speak.

The committee is invited simply to note the instrument. Are members happy to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

11:41 Meeting continued in private until 11:52.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Given the legal obligations that the bill sets out, do you think that a regional approach would be sufficient to tick the boxes?