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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

I am not going to suggest another committee or group, because you already have quite a lot of them—for example, you talked earlier about the future industry board—but is there a need for more co-ordination?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

It is not on the Grangemouth future industry board, for example. Only public sector bodies are on that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

Diarmaid Lawlor touched on some of the initiatives. It looked like you were trying to co-ordinate all of that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

How would you like that to change? Should community councils be on more of those committees, or is there a need for a structure that brings some of those different organisations and initiatives together with the community? How would you bring that together? How would you align the community with all the initiatives that are taking place?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

I used to be a community councillor before I was a local councillor and before I was an MSP. It is a big commitment for you. I used to go to lots of organisations—you will know that there are loads. Is that asking too much of community council members? Is there another way, or should there be an open invitation for the community council to go to those different organisations?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Colin Smyth

That sounds like a warning to me.

I will follow up on that question. The point about the need to invest in the infrastructure to avoid our making the mistakes with offshore wind that we made with onshore wind is incredibly well made. Whose responsibility is that? Are we saying that the Government needs to direct things here? The industry does not seem to be delivering here, so is it a matter of the Government intervening more?

I would like to bring in Pat Rafferty at this point. I was struck, Pat, by what your written submission said about the importance of an industrial strategy in fulfilling the potential. What role would that play in tackling some of the issues around the fact that the infrastructure does not seem to be in place?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Colin Smyth

He would be better with Barcelona, but that is fine.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Colin Smyth

I will get into bother with the convener if I start getting into supply chain development statements versus conditionality, but that is a well-made point about ScotWind.

Dominic Pritchard, I will follow up something from the GMB submission. We have talked a lot about the importance of the Acorn project to Grangemouth and, in fact, the importance of that project with regard to a jobs-first just transition, because of the opportunities that it brings. However, I noted a concern in the GMB submission that, although hydrogen and carbon capture have the potential to create jobs, they will not do so at a scale that will replace the jobs that will be lost in the carbon-intensive industry. Do you have a view on what the difference will be between what we can create through Acorn and carbon capture and hydrogen, and what we have at the moment?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Colin Smyth

In effect, it is about delivering more opportunities over and above these. It is not a silver bullet.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Colin Smyth

I refer members to my voluntary registration as a member of Unite and the GMB.