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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Colin Smyth

I think that Elliot Ross would like to comment on that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Colin Smyth

I presume that there also need to be targets so that we can measure how many jobs have been created. Onshore wind is a prime example. The target in the energy strategy to produce 12GW of onshore wind is great, but communities across Scotland tell us that, at the moment, the turbines are not built in Scotland, so we know that there is a gap there. Surely, as well as knowing how many jobs are created, the plans should give us specific targets for the number of jobs that should be created.

I will use the example of offshore wind. How many supply chain jobs should be created in Scotland as a result of ScotWind? Surely we should have a target for that, against which we can measure progress. That way, we will be able to measure not just how many jobs have been created but how we have done against the target.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Colin Smyth

You very diplomatically did not say what the Governments need to do, but you make fairly valid points.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Colin Smyth

You will be pleased to know that you have already answered just about every question that I had. I am going to turn the discussion around a bit.

The message so far is that we have these ambitious targets for net zero but the UK Climate Change Committee has been pretty scathing of the UK and Scottish Governments for not having a plan in place yet to meet those targets. You have all said that the good news—notwithstanding the risk associated with new technologies—is that there is substantial funding available, although the Governments are not using the policy levers to make sure that that funding comes forward.

We are not the Government; we are a parliamentary committee. What do you think are the barriers preventing the Governments from enabling you to bring forward that finance? Why are the Governments it not putting forward those policy changes and what do we need to do as a committee to change that? Other than getting on with the job, what would you like to see the Governments change? What do they need to change to enable that funding to come forward? Do not worry: you can be as frank and as critical as you wish. It is okay—we will not tell them what you say.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Colin Smyth

The idea of presenting net zero as the path to growth, not the barrier to it is interesting.

Ben Howarth, you have said that the ABI has done research that showed that you can contribute up to £1 trillion towards some of these long term projects. Why is the Government not biting your hand off to get that to happen?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

I will bring in Adam Gillies to give a view on whether the community feels that it is involved in those initiatives, but maybe you can get your rebuttal in first, Diarmaid. How do you involve the community? I detect from the delivery of the action plan that there is a lot of frustration in the community that a lot of things are happening, but they are not benefiting the community. How are you bringing the community into that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

Adam Gillies, the greener Grangemouth project sounds like a great thing, with heavy community involvement. In what way could the community be better involved in some of that work?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

But the option should be there.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

Good morning, panel. I will follow up on the points that you have made about the various initiatives that have taken place. I had a list before the meeting started, and I have just added to it. We have the green freeport, which Malcolm Bennie mentioned, the local hydrogen action plan, the Falkirk growth deal, the United Kingdom Government’s levelling up agenda, the shared prosperity fund and the Scottish Government’s national strategy for economic transformation. You have just mentioned that you would like to see a master plan for the Grangemouth area. The letter that we got from the SFT this morning talked about the greener Grangemouth initiative.

There are a lot of initiatives. How can conflict between the various policy programmes and initiatives be properly managed to ensure that we have joined-up working towards our goal?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Colin Smyth

How would that be managed if there was a potential conflict between what Ineos said and what the local council wanted to achieve?