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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Colin Smyth

Good morning. As you point out in your written evidence, the committee and others have recognised, as you have done, the absence of a clear definition of a just transition. Given your work on seeking to define and measure a just transition, do you think that there is enough clarity and certainty when it comes to what UK and Scottish Government policies are seeking to achieve in relation to the transition to net zero? If not, where are the gaps? I note the work that you have done and the comments on how we measure a just transition.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Colin Smyth

If we invest in those businesses, can the opportunities that are there at the moment make sure that they have enough work?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Colin Smyth

Fergus Mutch, renewable energy is not a new thing. There has been a criticism in the past that we have seen the growth of renewables but not the growth of the economic benefits that have flowed from it. Too many supply chain jobs have gone overseas, such as those in the development of turbines. How do we ensure that we do not make the mistakes of the past and that your members benefit? What do they need to make sure that they benefit from the growth in renewables and the transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Colin Smyth

Ronan O’Hara, is that an observation that also you have? Crown Estate Scotland works closely with businesses, whether they be in tidal development or, in the longer term, offshore wind. Are businesses preparing for that period, and do they have enough business, if you like, to get them to the point at which some of the leasing that you have done starts to come to fruition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Colin Smyth

I want to continue with the point about ensuring that supply chain businesses in the north-east are able to benefit from the opportunity. I will start with you, Mark Munro. In SNIB’s submission, one of the warnings given is that decreasing oil and gas production will mean a fall in revenue for supply chains in the short term. How do we avoid losing those supply chain businesses during that period so that we still have the skills, the infrastructure and the businesses themselves to take advantage of the opportunities in the longer term that we are talking about and ensure that we are not just offshoring wind power production but are continuing to offshore the jobs? What do we do during that period, when we start to see the decommissioning of oil and gas but are not quite seeing the scale of offshore wind developments that we anticipate in the future?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Colin Smyth

That is helpful. Mark Munro made a point about the consent process, but my question is really for Ronan O’Hara. As we have heard in previous evidence, you made the observation that there are real concerns that, no matter how many leases Crown Estate Scotland hands out, they will not come on stream, or they will come on stream far too late to support the supply chains, if we do not get consent for them in a reasonable time. From your observations, Ronan, what needs to be done to make sure that that consenting process delivers at the pace that we need it to?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Colin Smyth

Thank you, convener. I do not have any interests to declare.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Colin Smyth

What actions are needed from Government to make sure that we have the workers to take advantage of those opportunities? You mentioned speeding up the consenting process, which is one of them, as that would reduce the pressure on those who have that role to drive these things forward, but what other actions are needed from Government?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Colin Smyth

Are there any actions that the Government could take during that period to make sure that your members can benefit from those opportunities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Colin Smyth

That was very helpful.

My next questions are for Mia McCarthy and Maggie McGinlay. Mia, are you already facing skills shortages at SSE? If so, what should the Government be doing to support you?