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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Colin Smyth

That was a key aim of your strategy, so why has that not happened?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Colin Smyth

I am just quoting Audit Scotland. The report says:

“With the current financial challenges, an understanding of cost and affordability will help the Scottish Government to prioritise spending decisions and is critical for transparency, scrutiny and accountability.”

Audit Scotland is the one calling for more clarity on the level of investment needed. I am just asking whether you think that it is wrong when it says that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Colin Smyth

It is a matter of record that I have asked for clarity on the level of investment across all Government departments and not for one line. However, I think that it is clear, as Audit Scotland has highlighted, that the Government does not know how much investment is needed to deliver the NSET, so I will leave it at that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Smyth

Anne-Marie, you also said that it is not joined up effectively. How do we join it up? You said that it needs to be personalised to the individual. How do we change policy so that we are not working in silos and we are bringing people together to make sure that it is personalised? What is missing at the moment to make it personalised?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Smyth

That is a very interesting point, because when we had a group of young people up from The Usual Place in Dumfries, one of the staff made the point that the organisation often slips through the gaps in funding because it is not education and it is not employment, but it bridges the two. Every time it applies for funding, it is told, “Sorry, that is education,” or, “Sorry, that is employment.” I am just trying to work out what is the barrier. It sounds like it is about silo working, but is it because we do not put in place the bridge? We are not funding the bridge; we are funding the two things separately. Is that a fair reflection?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Smyth

I am just trying to work out why that support is so important for those young people. You said that there is a network of support already there, but it is not functioning correctly. Is the support there and the issue is the way it works, or is the support not there? I am trying to work out what the gap is and why that support is so important for those young people.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Smyth

Tracey, why do you think that it makes such a difference?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Smyth

That is very helpful. You were nodding vigorously, Charlie, so I will bring you in.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Smyth

At the moment, there is clearly a gap in enterprise funding when it comes to conditionality.

Okay, that is helpful. You also mentioned that funding is often discontinued. Is it a common problem that somebody gets a project, it is funded for a couple of years, then, suddenly, that scheme just disappears altogether? That is pretty common, is it not?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Smyth

Thank you convener, and thanks to the panel for your answers so far.

You have touched on the issue already, but one of the most common concerns that the committee hears about is how the employability services that you talk about are funded. There is the lack of multiyear funding, late awards, schemes being discontinued—as Alan Thornburrow talked about—and projects that do not seem to tick an education box or an employment box, so they fall through the gap. The use of self-directed support is becoming more common and there is concern that, as a result, the checks and balances are not there that would be there if a project was directly funded.

Apart from the obvious fact that we need to fund those services a lot more, what changes do you think we need to make to employment services to make them fit for purpose? You only have an hour to answer that question. Carmel, you mentioned the rules, so I will start with you.