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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Okay. We may come back to that issue.

As members have no further questions, that brings us to the end of the evidence session. I thank the minister and all the officials for joining us. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow a change of witnesses.

10:06 Meeting suspended.  

10:30 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I am sure that we will come back to that very important point tomorrow with the company.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Gordon MacDonald, do you want to come back in with a supplementary question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Minister, I have a question that you may be able to answer with your wider public sector reform hat on. The bill aims to empower local authorities to transform local economies through community wealth building. However, councils in Scotland still lack a general power of competence, which is something that councils in England were given by section 1 of the Localism Act 2011, which effectively gave them the ability to do anything unless it is prohibited by law. That seems to have helped cities such as Preston to pursue some innovative work on community wealth building.

Is there a concern that, without that general power of competence, councils might be hesitant to pursue some innovative approaches for fear of overstepping their legal responsibilities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

On that point, what consideration was given to creating a formal role for those anchor organisations when it comes to co-designing the action plan itself? You have highlighted the importance of those organisations, but should they not be co-designing the action plan with local authorities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I will bring in Daniel Johnson. No pressure, Daniel, but we are looking for some plain speaking.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Do we need a law to do that? Can you not just have an agreement with COSLA to set that direction for public bodies? Public bodies, such as Scottish Enterprise, rely on ministerial direction letters, so could that not all have been covered by that process?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

If we are to have a bill, why does it ignore the big-ticket policy areas that really matter, which we have heard about in evidence? Why are changes in the policy areas of, for example, procurement thresholds, small and medium-sized enterprise access to procurement, and improved community asset transfer policies not in the bill? Have you not missed an opportunity to tackle those issues and really move the dial on community wealth building?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

You raised a point about contracts, and we will question the company tomorrow. What assurances have you been given by the company that, if the contracts are secured, the work will be carried out in Falkirk and not simply transferred elsewhere? Has the company given you the assurance that, if it is able to get the contracts, it will be able to retain jobs in Falkirk?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Gordon MacDonald has a couple of supplementaries.