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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

That is very helpful. I put the same question to Jennifer Davies.

09:45  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

I will give the final word to Stevie Wilson.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

Are there any other reflections on the Withers report?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

We have come to the end of our evidence session. I want to say a huge thank you to the members of our panel, whose insights have been incredibly helpful to the committee. Thank you very much indeed for your time.

We now move into private session.

10:57 Meeting continued in private until 11:22.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 12th meeting in 2025 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee.

Our first item of business is our third evidence session on the skills delivery landscape. The purpose of the sessions is to consider how the current skills system is working and to identify the actions that are needed to support businesses and improve the skills supply chain, including green skills.

I am delighted to welcome Tony Burns, the chief operating officer of ACS Clothing; Jennifer Davies, the strategic workforce manager at Scottish Power Energy Networks; Doug Duguid, the chief executive of Aurora Energy Services; and Stevie Wilson, the global apprenticeship manager at the SCORE Group.

As always, I appeal to members to keep their questions as short as possible—I am sure that I will fail miserably with that request—and to the witnesses to keep their answers as concise as possible.

I will kick off with the first question. I appreciate that apprenticeships are not the only part of the skills system, but the committee has focused on that topic quite heavily during our evidence sessions in recent weeks. What is your general view on the current apprenticeship system in Scotland compared with that in the rest of the United Kingdom? What engagement have you had with that system?

I will bring in Stevie Wilson first, given that his role includes the word “apprenticeship”.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

It sounds as though you do a lot of that work in-house; you do not use agencies. Do you do all the training in-house, too? Is there a partnership with colleges, or is it all done in-house?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

You can do a lot of this at scale because you are a significant employer in the Scottish economy. I am very familiar with some of the work that you do in Dumfries and Galloway in partnership with colleges around wind turbine technicians and so on. Do you have a lot of partnerships with colleges across Scotland because of the scale of what you can do? Are they responsive to your skills gaps and skills needs as an employer?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

I would like to ask a final question. You will be aware that an independent review of the skills delivery landscape in Scotland was recently carried out by James Withers. Do any of our witnesses have any reflections on that review? Is what the review has proposed the right direction of travel for our skills landscape?

As that was the final question, I will give you the opportunity to pitch any last points that you want to raise that have not been picked up on during the session. It is over to you.

I cannot believe that that pitch has been met with silence. We will kick off with Tony Burns.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Smyth

You are not the first person to highlight how effective the SAAB is. Are you concerned that although the SAAB might not disappear, there seems to be a vacuum with regard to what might replace it, and you might end up losing something that most people say is quite effective?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Colin Smyth

The good news is that that will certainly come up later in our discussion.