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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Rona Mackay

Good morning, minister. This morning’s session has been very reassuring on a number of counts. We have heard from witnesses who do not want to think that the service is being rushed through without their having a chance to be listened to or to be part of the co-design. From what you have said to my colleague Russell Findlay about the timescale, you are giving that time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Rona Mackay

There are two aspects to the bill. If we leave aside the constitutional question, the first issue is that the bill is, I believe, a very bad one. It shuts the door on justice for people who are looking for justice for what happened decades ago in Northern Ireland. The bill is in no one’s interest—its premise is very bad.

Constitutionally, it is a no-brainer. For example, the response from the Lord Advocate states:

“The Bill, in its current form, engages a number of areas over which I have constitutional responsibility and does so in a manner novel to Scots criminal law.”

Therefore, the bill would represent new ground and not good new ground, so I strongly recommend that we do not consent to the LCM.

Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Rona Mackay

That is very reassuring.

We have also heard from witnesses that the status quo is not an option. Pretty much across the board, people realise that they want something to be done. I am very reassured that you have been listening to people with lived experience, and I am sure that other stakeholders will be similarly reassured.

Are you confident that, if local authorities put pressure on you not to include justice social work in the bill and that pressure is mainly based on local authorities’ financial fears, you can answer those concerns?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Rona Mackay

The success rate in prevention of reoffending seems to be good.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Rona Mackay

If multiple agencies were inputting information, would there be implications for how long it would take to get a decision made?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Rona Mackay

Just to clarify, are you suggesting that the first step in the application would be to contact a third sector organisation that has been working with the person?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Rona Mackay

Tracey, may I have your views?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Rona Mackay

Is there a risk that some people might fall through the net if they are not connected to a third sector organisation and are not getting support?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Rona Mackay

Very briefly—

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Rona Mackay

Good morning. From your submissions, you seem to be broadly supportive of the bill, although you highlight resources as an issue.

I want to ask a wee bit more about the suggestion that third sector organisations, when working with individuals in a case, should be able to provide input to help to inform decisions. How would that work in practice? Are there concerns in general about how that might delay the process? What are the timings likely to be in the whole court system, if several organisations are inputting and may be working to different timescales? Has the system suffered because of a lack of information from third sector organisations until now? I think that you believe that the bill should provide the opportunity for third sector organisations to do that, so I ask you to talk a wee bit about that.

I will go to Charlie Martin first.