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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Good morning, Mr Farrell. My question, which follows on from what you have been discussing with the convener, relates to the timescale for deciding whether to prosecute. Witnesses have advised the committee that the length of time that that has taken has, in their eyes, been unacceptable, and that there was a shadow hanging over them for a long time.

Also the report by His Majesty’s chief inspector of prisons for Scotland said that the 12-week target for decision making

“is based on flawed data”

and that

“there is a lack of robust and accurate management information about CAAP-D’s work.”

I know that you will be aware of that report. Could you address that and the timescales involved, please?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Good morning. My first question is for Phillip Chapman. Witnesses have raised with us the time taken to complete investigations and the lack of transparency in the system. One witness said that the system does not work for police officers or for members of the public. Do you think that the bill does enough to address the issue of lengthy timescales and the problems associated with that? Perhaps you could explain your thinking on that and say whether you think that things are going to improve, because we heard that that was definitely a problem.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

I understand what you are saying. Is there a way that the process could be streamlined? That is what I am trying to get at. Is there any one thing that could happen that would be helpful to you, to witnesses and to complainers?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Did you say 19 days?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Therefore, your workload has increased considerably since the Angiolini review. Did you take on more staff to deal with that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Thank you for that.

Sharon Clelland, are non-disclosure agreements routinely used in your work?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

That is fine. His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland already has responsibility for reviewing the policies and practice of Police Scotland and the Scottish Police Authority and to co-ordinate that with the PIRC. Do you think that that whole arrangement is working well? Does anything need to be done legislatively to improve that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

What is the SPA’s role in that? Do you interact much with it? Where does it fit into the picture?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Rona Mackay

I presume that a non-disclosure agreement means that certain people cannot discuss the case.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Rona Mackay

It is. That is a lot of interesting information. Dr Lennon, would you like to comment at all?