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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Kate Forbes

I do not know whether this question is directly relevant, but it is in the general scheme of things. Are there any winners in Scottish agriculture when it comes to the free trade agreements such as those with Australia and New Zealand?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Kate Forbes

It sounds like you are all in agreement with the Australian Deputy Prime Minister, who said that the big winner was Australia, full stop.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

Kate Forbes

I will ask a follow-up question. Do you see any positive changes happening? For example, are the non-tariff barriers becoming smoother? Do you see any hope on the horizon that issues around costs will reduce?

I will also put to you a controversial question that I have asked other people who have given evidence. Do you have confidence that decision makers are going to be more inclined to make changes because of what the sector is saying, or will it just boil down to straight-up politics?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Kate Forbes

Some of this has been covered already, but I will pick up on comments that were made by stakeholders about the purposes in schedule 1. I am sure that the cabinet secretary is quite sympathetic to the idea of future proofing any legislation. A number of specific comments, which I will not go into in detail, were made about areas where there was an element of prescriptiveness that may or may not miss out things that might become relevant later.

For example, questions were asked about why certain sectors have been omitted and about why certain things have been included. People asked why eggs, poultry and pork have been omitted. One comment was about the need for sufficient flexibility to account for future circumstances, such as changes in climate or cropping patterns having an effect. Are you sympathetic to that? How do you balance being prescriptive—there will be pressure on you to be prescriptive—with being broad enough to allow for change?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Kate Forbes

Amendments 88 and 89 are, in my view, fairly minor, technical amendments and they are certainly not controversial. They ensure that there is consistency across licensable purposes for peatland and non-peatland. Amendment 88 ensures that muirburn, which of course does not distinguish between habitats, can be licensed on peatland and non-peatland where we want to prevent damage to habitats caused by wildfire.

Amendment 89 does the same thing, correcting inconsistencies across licensable purposes for peatland and non-peatland, but amendment 89 concerns a licensable purpose where an individual wants to conserve, restore, enhance or manage the natural environment. In short, my two amendments allow for the management of habitats and the protection of the natural environment across peatland and non-peatland as a licensable requirement when it comes to muirburn.

I have spoken to the minister about the amendments, and I understand and respect the point that the Government may wish to bring them back at stage 3. I hope that the minister can give some assurance on that, so as to give effect to the intention behind my two amendments at stage 3, which will mean that I will not move my amendments.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Kate Forbes

I will not move amendment 89.

Amendment 89 moved—[Rachael Hamilton].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Kate Forbes

In the interests of time, I will go straight to pressing the amendment.

Amendment 91 agreed to.

Amendment 147 moved—[Rachael Hamilton].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Kate Forbes

Does the minister recognise, too, that, as the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service indicated, one of the most essential aims of carrying out muirburn is that it acts as a firebreak for wildfire? Not only is it in the interests of a particular industry, albeit one on which people might have different views; without it, we might have seen homes being burned to the ground last summer.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Kate Forbes

I am happy not to move amendment 95 when the time comes, in the light of what the minister has outlined.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Kate Forbes

Stakeholders have shared some concerns about the capacity for other birds to be added without scrutiny. I have had some good conversations with the minister that have recognised those concerns and the need to have balanced legislation that is not overly prescriptive or too broad but can take changing circumstances into account. Although I cannot support Rhoda Grant’s amendment, I wanted to put those stakeholders’ concerns on the record. I know that the minister understands the breadth of that worry.