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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

The question is, that amendment 40 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

There will be a division.

For

Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab)
Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab)

Against

Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP)
Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green)
Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con)

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

There will be a division.

For

Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP)
Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green)
Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con)

Against

Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab)
Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab)

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

That ends stage 2 consideration of the bill. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow witnesses to change places.

11:08 Meeting suspended.  

11:10 On resuming—  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

Our third agenda item is consideration of an affirmative instrument. The purpose of the instrument is to increase the value of payments for free personal care and nursing care by 2.37 per cent. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee considered the instrument at its meeting on 4 February 2025 and made no recommendations in relation to it.

We will have an evidence session with the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport and supporting officials on the instrument. Once our questions have been answered, we will proceed to a formal debate on the motion.

I welcome the minister, Maree Todd. I also welcome her Scottish Government officials, Geraldine Campbell, who is the unit head for adult social care charging, care at home and dementia, and Alice Hall, who is the deputy director for adult social care, local improvement and transformation. I invite the minister to make a brief opening statement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

I invite the minister to sum up.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

The question is, that motion S6M-16242 be approved. Are we agreed?

Motion agreed to,

That the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee recommends that the Community Care (Personal Care and Nursing Care) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2025 [draft] be approved.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

Agenda item 2 is our continued consideration of the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill at stage 2, and I welcome to the meeting the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport.

For those who are watching, I will briefly explain the procedure that we will follow during today’s proceedings. The members should have with them a copy of the bill, the marshalled list and groupings, all of which are available on the bill’s web pages on the Scottish Parliament’s website.

I will call each amendment individually in the order that is set out in the marshalled list, and the member who lodged the amendment should either move it or say “Not moved” when it is called. If that member does not move it, any other member present may do so.

The groupings of amendments set out the amendments in the order in which they will be debated. There will be one debate on each group of amendments; in each debate, I will call the member who lodged the first amendment in the group to speak to and move that amendment, and to speak to all the other amendments in the group. I will then call other members with amendments in the group to speak to but not move their amendments, and to speak to other amendments in the group if they so wish. I will then call any other members who wish to speak in the debate. Members who wish to speak should indicate as much by catching my attention or the attention of the clerks. I will then call the minister, if she has not already spoken in the debate.

Finally, I will call the member who moved the first amendment in the group to wind up and to indicate whether he or she wishes to press or seek to withdraw the amendment. If the amendment is pressed, I will put the question on it. If a member wishes to withdraw an amendment after it has been moved and debated, I will ask whether any member present objects; if there is an objection, I will immediately put the question on the amendment. Later amendments in a group are not debated again when they are reached and, if they are moved, I will put the question on them straight away.

If there is a division, only committee members are entitled to vote. Voting is by a show of hands, and it is important that members keep their hands raised clearly until the clerk has recorded their names. If there is a tie, I must exercise a casting vote.

In normal circumstances, the committee is also required to formally consider and agree each section of the bill. However, as a number of amendments seek to leave out entire sections of this bill, a separate decision on those sections will not be required. Where a separate decision is needed, I will put the question at the appropriate point.

Section 38—Rights to breaks for carers

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

Amendment 73, in the name of Gillian Mackay, is grouped with amendments 74 to 81, 131, 132, 82, 133, 83 to 85 and 88. I call Gillian Mackay to move amendment 73 and speak to all amendments in the group.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Clare Haughey

I call Jackie Baillie to speak to amendment 132 and other amendments in the group.