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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
We have to draw our session to a close. I apologise to members who have not been able to get their questions in. I thank the witnesses for their evidence.
At our meeting next week, we will hear from Public Health Scotland about minimum unit pricing for alcohol. That will be followed by an evidence session with the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport on the Mental Health (National Secure Adolescent Inpatient Service: Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland) Regulations 2023.
That concludes the public part of our meeting.
11:58 Meeting continued in private until 12:37.Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
Good morning, and welcome to the 31st meeting in 2023 of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. We have received no apologies, and Tess White will be joining us remotely.
Agenda item 1 is to make a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take items 3 to 5 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
Before we move on to the next question, I have a follow-up question. Cara, you mentioned in your first answer to Stephanie Callaghan that you thought that the pace was too slow. Could you expand on that? Do you think that we should be setting up the national care service more quickly?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
I think that we are straying off-piste.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
Jim Elder-Woodward, did you want to add anything to your original answer?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
I need to move on to Tess White.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
Thank you very much. I thank the panellists for their evidence and their attendance, and there will now be a short break to allow for a change of panels.
10:26 Meeting suspended.Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
I call Sandesh Gulhane.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
Agenda item 2 is evidence taking on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. Our first panel comprises representatives from trade unions, and I welcome to the meeting Dave Moxham, who is deputy general secretary of the Scottish Trades Union Congress, who is joining us remotely. We are also joined by Cara Stevenson, who is organiser for the women’s campaign unit at GMB Scotland. We hope to be joined by Lilian Macer, who is the regional secretary at Unison Scotland, and who unfortunately has been delayed.
We will move straight to questions. I call Stephanie Callaghan.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 31 October 2023
Clare Haughey
I would like to hear the panel members’ views on the proposals for legal accountability for social care and it being shared between the Scottish ministers and local authorities, which is quite a significant change to what was first proposed in the bill. I come first to Rachel Cackett.