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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

Some local authorities are further ahead on that than others. Some are obviously waiting for the regulations to come into force, as I hope they will following our discussion. That is why we have built in that 12-month period to allow local authorities to get it right.

The second point is that we have already provided £2.4 million of funding to local authorities in relation to signing and lining. I hope that that will help with regard to the specifics of Mark Ruskell’s point, but that is obviously a matter for local authorities to determine, recognising that they will be the best people to decide what is right for their local communities. Donald Morrison may want to say more; I see that he is indicating that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

The other thing to say is that, although we will be running a national campaign, local authorities have a responsibility to ensure that their local communities know that the changes are coming into force. Bluntly, there will have to be a sea change in parking behaviour and local authorities and Government need to be part of driving that. The market research behind our publicity campaign at national level is already under way, and we hope to bring that forward, further into 2023, to get the public ready for the changes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

I am happy to do so. It is worth saying that more regulations are coming forward on the parking ban. This instrument is the first part of the jigsaw.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

No, I understand your point. However, I think that the position is different because, as I have said, certain local authorities are further down the line, while others have not yet started the process. We do not expect there to be exemptions to the national parking ban across vast swathes of the country. As I have mentioned, officials will continue to work with local authorities through the working group to monitor those costs.

Mr Kerr asked whether the £2.4 million-worth of funding is for marketing. The funding is to help local authorities with signing and lining, and changes to the procedure locally. There are a vast number of ways in which that funding is helping to support local authorities. Some will need that more than others, such as those that are looking to have exemptions or those that might have more streets that require exemptions. That gives us a mixed picture nationally in terms of the implementation of policy.

I am more than happy to continue to monitor the implementation of the procedure in relation to the assessment that local authorities will now be undertaking in the next 12 months and to give the committee interim updates as we progress towards the full ban coming into force at the end of 2023, if that would be helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

I do not envisage there being multiple hearings, although that is a right that the local authority has through the regulations. Local authorities must also consult on any exemptions that they propose, which I discussed with my officials prior to the meeting. There is no statutory rate or level for the number of objections that might be received. Scottish ministers have the power to appoint a reporter and to conduct what would essentially be a hearing process. That would be a matter for the local authority to judge, because those are local roads. Local authorities should be trusted to do that and perhaps to measure where they see the greatest number of objections to a suggested exemption. If there are limited numbers of objections, we might expect them not to go down that route.

The legislation does not dictate the process to local authorities per se, but a hearing is an option that is open to local authorities. It is important that they get it right for local communities, because we do not want to see vast swathes of exemptions in relation to the legislation.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

There is, yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

Indeed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

At this time, it is quite difficult for us to say what the future cost will be. Donald Morrison and I mentioned, I think in response to Ms Lennon’s question, that some local authorities are further down the road than others, while some are waiting and holding back their consultation and assessment processes until the regulations come into force. Therefore, we do not yet know where they are in their planning or what the associated costs with that would be.

We would certainly want to continue working with local authority partners. They have been part of the working group to develop the parking guidance for example. That has been pivotal. They have helped to shape and change the guidance as officials have worked with them during the past year and a bit.

We as a Government recognise the need to listen and respond to changes accordingly. I take Mr Kerr’s point seriously, because I recognise some of the financial challenges that local authorities and, it should be said, the Scottish Government face at this time.

We have provided funding of £2.4 million, and we will continue to work with local authority partners on those costs. However, at this time, it is not possible to give a quantifiable amount for each local authority, because some are further down the road with their assessments than others and others have yet to start the process and therefore will not have a cost associated with the work itself.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

Yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Jenny Gilruth

The local authority would have to judge. If it had a certain number of objections in a certain area and identified that there was a real challenge, you would expect the local authority to respond accordingly. It is very dependent on the level of interest in the exemptions at local level. However, as I mentioned in response to Mr Ruskell, in terms of driving the behaviour change that we need to see, we do not want to see vast swathes of exemptions. The regulations give local authorities a power, but there is, nonetheless, still a national pavement parking ban.