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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

The evidence base of the report has not been in contention today—I have not heard that from members. However, I am happy to hear from history teachers. I did that through my engagement with SATH, but I put on the record again that I am keen to hear from history teachers directly on the issue. The evidence base that I have been presented with and which we have discussed throughout today’s session does not tell me of the challenges that you have spoken to today, convener, and it does not necessarily reflect some of the other views that you have heard. However, I do not discount those views, and I am more than happy to hear from those teachers.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

As the committee will be aware, Richard Harry, the executive director of qualifications and assessment in the Welsh exam board, carried out an independent peer review of the report. Fiona Robertson can speak about the detail of the methodology that was applied, because the methodology for the independent peer review was decided by the SQA, not by the Scottish Government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

It is therefore quite unique.

I take the member’s point on board, but the issue that I have as cabinet secretary is that the report that I have been presented with does not present a substantive evidence base for me to issue a directive. I think that that is the point that the member is making. If that evidence base exists, I will consider it. However, the report that I have been presented with, which is a rigorous report—I am sure that all committee members have read it in detail—looks very thoroughly at the question paper, at the marking guidelines and at how they were applied. I do not have—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

Of course. On page 10 of the report, it talks through the qualification changes in recent years. It also makes a point about the qualification requirements for history, in particular, not having been consistent since 2018. There have been changes to the qualifications largely as a result—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I very much recognise the strength of feeling in relation to the matter. In my experience, it is quite unusual that the qualifications body would instruct a review of such a nature. I am not sure whether that has happened previously in other subject areas.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

The member raises an important point. I go back to a point that I raised earlier: it is imperative that the new qualifications body, and the SQA, have the trust of Scotland’s teachers and its pupils and parents. This has been a challenging time with regard to some of the coverage. However, opinions vary on some of the outputs.

Members have made points about the report. However, the report puts substantive evidence to its recommendations, and I think that it is difficult to challenge the content of the report. I have not heard today from the committee any challenge to the content.

If, after this committee session, the committee hears evidence from people who get in contact with it, I will be happy to consider that. At present, however, the report does not provide me with an evidence base for looking at anything further. I think that that was the point that Ms Duncan-Glancy was referring to earlier. We have to work with Scotland’s teachers—as you all know, I was previously a teacher and I was a marker. The point was made earlier about the disconnect that often exists between the qualifications body and being at the chalkface. I think that being a marker is important, in particular for a secondary teacher, in order to get an understanding of the national standard and an opportunity to contribute to what the national standard looks like. In my view, that informs better practice, and it can help to support better learning and teaching.

We need to look at opportunities for the teaching profession to get involved with the new qualifications body, so that teachers do not feel as though it is an organisation that does things to them. I speak from personal experience and I know that that was often the feeling of the profession in the past. It is important that teachers have professional opportunities to engage with the new qualifications body and be part of it, so that they own the qualifications process, as much as anything else.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

The report makes that comment, and it was made by one of the markers. It is an observation from somebody who marked this year’s exam scripts. It is not for me to comment on that, but that is a reason that has been put forward in the report. Fiona Robertson might want to say more on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I am content with the report, Mr Ross.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

SATH is the professional association that represents history teachers in Scotland, although not all history teachers will be a member of it. The reason that I have sought to engage with it is purely based on the correspondence that I have received from history teachers. I asked my officials to engage to that end last week—I may bring in Clare Hicks on that point. I am happy to engage more widely with the history teaching profession to hear its views. It is also important for you, as convener, to reflect that not all history teachers have the same view as those that you have just espoused.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I will be happy to do so.