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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

That question is probably best directed to Ms Robertson in the first instance, although I am happy to come back to the point about independence and how we can provide objectivity, because it is a fair point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

The evidence base of the report has not been in contention today—I have not heard that from members. However, I am happy to hear from history teachers. I did that through my engagement with SATH, but I put on the record again that I am keen to hear from history teachers directly on the issue. The evidence base that I have been presented with and which we have discussed throughout today’s session does not tell me of the challenges that you have spoken to today, convener, and it does not necessarily reflect some of the other views that you have heard. However, I do not discount those views, and I am more than happy to hear from those teachers.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

Yes, but last year, a different approach would have been taken, because the approach that was taken during the Covid pandemic was still being applied. A more lenient approach was applied last year. Fiona Robertson might want to speak about the detail of that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I think that Ms Robertson should provide the context first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I think that we have received one such complaint since the appeals process closed.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I am more than happy to hear concerns from any of Scotland’s teachers. They routinely contact me on a daily basis, Mr Briggs, and I am more than happy to engage with them.

I have accepted the findings of the report that has been published. Incidentally, I do not think that any member who is in the room today has found any issue with the findings of the report. I was keen to hear from SATH. I think that it is reasonable for me as cabinet secretary to say that I accept the findings of the report but I want to hear the views of Scotland’s history teachers about where we go next. That is the pragmatic approach to take. If Mr Briggs has any further information, I am more than happy to hear it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

Ultimately, it is the responsibility of the Scottish Government and local authorities. In law, we have the responsibility for improving Scottish education, and I accept my role in that.

The point that Fiona Robertson made about overpresentation is a key theme in the report, which—I know—all committee members will have read. The report looks at whether young people sat a qualification at a level that they might not have been ready for, and whether that perhaps had an impact on their performance. We need to look at that specific issue. I am keen to speak to the chief inspector about that and about how we can provide support by working with local authorities. The committee will be aware of the on-going improvement work on the curriculum improvement cycle.

I am also mindful of the longer term, because I do not want a repeat of what happened this year. I want young people, parents and teachers to have confidence in our qualifications system. I am mindful of the committee’s report and that we will have a debate on the matter in two weeks, and I would be happy to meet any committee members if they have any ideas.

I am particularly mindful of the role of accreditation and of how we can provide confidence in the system that there is independence of thought in applying regulation to the qualifications. As the cabinet secretary, I will need to consider that, because I am mindful that learning lessons through the reform process is so important. On Ms Duncan-Glancy’s point, the new qualifications body has to carry the trust of Scotland’s teachers, pupils and parents.

It is imperative that we consider the role of continuous assessment, which is a live issue in relation to my recommendations on Professor Hayward’s review. Arguably, if we had a process of continuous assessment—which, incidentally, we did have—we would not have such a level of overpresentation.

In fact, I remember sitting where Ms Dunbar is sitting now, asking Fiona Robertson that exact question, probably in 2019. As we do not currently have continuous assessment, we arguably have overpresentation. It is difficult to quantify that, but I think that one of the Hayward recommendations, on going back to continuous assessment, is the answer. That will help to drive improvement, and help to support and scaffold young people in preparation for that qualification.

The third point concerns accreditation and next steps. I am also very mindful of the role of SATH in all this, and listening to its feedback will be imperative with regard to where we go next.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

I hope that committee members have refreshed themselves with the publication of an article that appeared in The Times Educational Supplement yesterday.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

Which part of the report do you not agree with, Mr Ross?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jenny Gilruth

We need to look at the outcome of this year’s examination results for higher history, which is that the pass rate dropped by 13 per cent. Notable drops in the pass rate happen every year, and in a range of subject areas. Fiona Robertson can provide detail on other areas in which that has happened. It is the responsibility of the SQA, first of all, to consider complaints, which is what it has done. It has conducted an investigation—I am not going to talk to the detail and methodology of it, as it is quite right that the SQA does that. Its report was independently peer reviewed by the director the Welsh qualifications authority—I am sure that we will come on to that.