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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

The requirement is to have the new plans in place by May 2028. We are watching that closely, to assess whether there is a risk of authorities not meeting the deadline, and we will work with them to address that as necessary.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

There are a few things in that. You are saying that communities that have local place plans may want help for them to be reflected in the local development plans. Andy Kinnaird has indicated that that is a requirement and that that will need to happen.

If your question is about communities that have local place plans that they want the current system to take into account, Andy can talk to the specifics of how that works.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

Anything that we can do to make that work more easily visible is to be encouraged. We will certainly reflect on and consider how we can do that. As I said, it is a dynamic process, and guidance is issued in response to challenges that present themselves or requests for further information or clarification. That process will continue. There is on-going work to review historical guidance and see how much of it is no longer relevant and can be taken down, which would help to simplify what is online and how it is presented. It makes sense for that to be done.

As an exercise, I went on to the internet this morning and typed in “Scottish Government planning guidance”. I was quickly taken to the Government webpage, where one or two pages lay out the overview with all the links to everything that you might ever want to see in guidance. I think that it is all there, but we will seek to make it as easily accessible as possible.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

In areas where significant development is likely to take place, the scheme allows the planning authority to put in place a masterplan consent area. A lot of the work would happen up front to address considerations in the area, which would mean that when planning applications were submitted, they could go through a streamlined process.

There are a number of examples of that from around the country. We think that it is a vehicle to be used in specific situations, such as in areas where there is likely to be a high concentration of development for various reasons. It allows the process to be streamlined, which would allow the development to happen faster, which is what it is all about.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Ivan McKee

Good morning, convener and committee. Thank you for the opportunity to appear in front of you this morning, and thank you for your understanding in allowing that to happen virtually.

I want to take the opportunity to briefly outline the aim and purpose of this Scottish statutory instrument. The order provides a technical update to existing marine planning zones to deliver on principles that are already established under the Town and Country Planning (Scotland) Act 1997. In 2007, the definition of “development” in the 1997 act was amended to include fish and shellfish farming out to 12 nautical miles. Any proposed marine fish or shellfish farm located between zero and 12 nautical miles requires planning permission from the relevant local planning authority. However, the Town and Country Planning (Marine Fish Farming) (Scotland) Order 2007 only designated Scotland’s marine planning zones out to 3 nautical miles, primarily as a result of the extent of the powers used at that time to designate marine planning zones.

In practice, that has resulted in a legislative gap, because there is no designated planning authority to which a developer may submit an application for a farm located between 3 and 12 nautical miles. In recent years, there has been increasing interest in the ability of fish farming businesses to move further from the coast into more dynamic high-dispersal regions of the marine environment, with developments in technology making farms in that region feasible. Such technology has already allowed businesses to locate farms outside of sheltered lochs into more exposed locations. That type of development has the potential to reduce environmental interactions and to support fish health and welfare in line with the aims of our vision for sustainable aquaculture. There is also interest from the shellfish farming sector in exploring opportunities to site farms further from the coast, including co-location with other marine developments such as renewable energy installations. The planning process for fish and shellfish farming in the zero to 3 nautical miles space is already well understood by businesses, regulators and other stakeholders.

It is, therefore, the intention of the provision to resolve the gap in the planning regulations by extending the marine planning zones out to 12 nautical miles to ensure a consistent approach to the appropriate assessment of any proposed developments within the zero-to-12 nautical miles zone in Scotland. The provision aligns with the Scottish Government’s commitment to improve the aquaculture regulatory system as outlined in our vision for sustainable aquaculture and our programme for government.

To ensure transparency and fairness, we engaged with stakeholders and the wider public in consultation on the proposals to extend marine planning zones out to 12 nautical miles and on illustrative interactive maps that outline the extended zones. Responses were carefully considered and informed the progression of today’s provision.

In closing the legislative gap, we can demonstrate that Scotland supports the sustainable development of salmon farming in Scotland and the important role that it plays in supporting employment, with 2,300 jobs supported directly and more than 10,000 roles in the broader supply chains, many of which are skilled and provide average annual incomes well above national and regional averages. I am confident that the enactment of the provision will provide certainty to businesses and stimulate investment in Scotland while offering reassurance to other stakeholders that the regulatory process is consistent and robust.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Ivan McKee

I am very happy to answer that question more generally.

Marine planning is a very specific aspect of the planning system, but, in general, we are taking significant steps to put more resources in through the work that we have done on fees. Of course, we cannot ring fence that money at the local authority level. The Scottish Government is also working to increase the number of planners significantly by trebling the number of bursaries it has put in place to support those coming into the planning profession.

Moreover, the Government has, for the first time, recruited a total of 18 apprentice planners, who will be trained through the process, and that will help to increase the number of people who are coming into the profession not just at the early stage of their careers but mid-career. Extensive work is being done to support a number of young planners who are coming through and to encourage others to come into the profession.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Ivan McKee

That is us unmuted now. Can you hear me?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

We consulted on the principle of fees for planning appeals and have taken on board the consultation responses. As I have said, there will of course be people who would be happy not to pay any fees for appeals—they would be delighted not to have to pay any planning fees at all—but that is not the world that we live in. We recognise that it is important to be able to resource the planning system. We recognise that there is a gap, as a result of only about two thirds of the cost of the planning system being covered by fees.

We have taken a number of measures, including the one that we are discussing and others to do with index linking and so on, to ensure that a higher proportion of the cost of the planning system is covered by fees than is the case at the moment. We think that tackling the resourcing issue that planning faces is an important step—of course, there are many others that need to be taken—in ensuring that the planning system is able to support development and tackle the housing emergency.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

I am very conscious of that, of the need to build more houses in general and of the role that SME builders can play in specific situations. The bulk of building is done by larger house builders but I recognise the important role that SME builders can play in that area.

It is important to recognise the cost of the appeal—and I mean the cost, not the fees involved. When you make an appeal, the fact is that, regardless of its size, certain things need to be done. Some of the cost will be proportional, depending on the number of units; however, the very process of going through an appeal incurs a significant cost to the public purse, and we think it only right that those costs be carried by the appellant.

When we look at it through that lens, we can see that, with smaller developments—which, by definition, will most likely be built by SME builders—we recover less of the cost then we do for larger developments. So, if we were to implement a system that reflected more accurately the costs of conducting an appeal, the charges for SMEs would, under these proposals, be significantly higher than they currently are.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

There is scope for that in specific circumstances. More generally, though, if you are talking about making a refund or fee waiver conditional on the outcome of an appeal, that takes us into a space that is not conducive to what we are trying to do, because it means that the decision on the appeal has a financial implication that could impact the decision-making process. If people want to take forward an appeal, an important principle is that the appellant should, by and large, pay for it. The planning process should run on the basis of the information that is in front of the person making the decision and should not run the risk of that decision being influenced by any financial consideration.