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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 October 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

Thank you. That is helpful. Who should make that call? Should there be wording that specifies what would need to pertain relating to public safety or whatever? What are your thoughts on that?

You also said that a longer postponement would be more helpful and effective than a shorter one, but there are other issues to consider. We have heard evidence about what would happen to postal votes, the electoral register and the timescale. A range of things would get worse with a longer postponement. What is your reflection on that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

That is useful. Is there a requirement to specify rules on that, whether in the bill or in guidance, or is it sufficient to have on the shelf a manual that people might or might not refer to? I am thinking through a scenario in which difficult decisions would need to be made that might end up having a political slant—around postal votes that had already been cast, or on what would happen if somebody had spent most of their money and somebody else had spent hardly any because they were going to spend it in the second half of the campaign, for example. Would the counter be reset? Is there a need to nail that stuff down at this stage, so that people would not spend a lot of time having a big bun fight, if such a scenario were to transpire?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

Maybe not.

My questions are about the process that you go through in order to decide what the boundaries should be. You can explain that for the record if you want, but I assume that it is all laid out in statute, guidance and so on.

Clearly, population drift, how you adjust for it and the limits within which you take account of that with regard to the numbers on the electoral roll, is an issue.

Do you take other factors into account, and, if so, how? One factor could be community, however you define it. Stability might be another factor, because clearly the relationships between an elected member and their constituents in local groups, schools and wherever else are built up over time and are important. Therefore, constantly making significant changes to boundaries would probably be unhelpful for everyone.

Another factor might be alignment with local government wards, in particular. For example, one ward being spread across three or four constituencies—or vice versa—would not be optimal.

Will you give me a sense of what the requirement is as laid out in statute, and in terms of your rules and guidance? How do you ensure that those issues are taken due account of in the process?

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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

Just for clarity, when you say “local authorities”, are you referring to local authority boundaries or local authority ward boundaries?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

So not the ward boundaries. I understand.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

Therefore, it is a multifactor problem and you are trying to balance that as best you can.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

You say in your submission that there have been instances—I have obviously not been in Parliament for all of that period—when Parliament and ministers have rejected your proposals. Is it possible to identify which factors Parliament and ministers have been most upset about with regard to your conclusions, and what has caused members to be less than happy? Have they felt that you have ignored certain aspects?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

I have two more brief questions, which you might or might not want to answer. The first is about the current process. You do the calculation for parity based on the electoral roll. Clearly, as elected members, we represent not only people who are on the electoral roll but everyone in the constituency. Might use of population data rather than the electoral roll be a more effective way of calculating the numbers?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

Thank you.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Ivan McKee

To reflect on that, I say that legislation is often, unfortunately, about trying to guess what is going to happen. That is the business that we are in.

Finally, do you have any thoughts on the impact on campaigners of possible postponement scenarios?