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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

I am very happy to do that. There are many moving parts in this scenario. Many budget lines and different portfolios within them have different priorities and perspectives on how they want to spend the money, and there is an overarching perspective on how we balance the budget, which lots of factors can impact at any given point.

We strive to be as transparent as possible and to explain why there are changes in specific budget lines in specific situations. However, considering only the top level, such as in the examples that we have looked at this morning, can perhaps be slightly misleading in relation to the reality of why specific budget lines have been increased or decreased. Quite often, it is about technical or demand-led issues, or it can be things that are—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

The nature of the numbers makes the pressure more challenging because of how the consequentials that flow through are worked out. Clearly, the money that flows through is a function of the decisions that are taken on total spend and tax by the UK Government. However, if you look at the public sector pay requirements for a given percentage increase in the rest of the UK, the proportionate increase in Scotland would be higher.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

We make different decisions in Scotland about how we spend money, whether it is on tuition fees, prescription charges, the Scottish child payment, higher pay for nurses and teachers or a range of other decisions that we make based on what our priorities are and how we want to spend that money.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

Yes, the calculation was done, and that is where the figure ended up. Clearly, there are a lot of variables in there from across all the different councils.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

It is a lesson. The process that we go through is managing and predicting a large number of areas and a great number of unknowns, both on the revenue and the spend side. You have to make assumptions on those, otherwise you could not function. You have to do that in the context of reaching a balanced budget. We fine-tune some of that process on an on-going basis. There is no big lesson that you would learn. It is about looking at how accurate some of our assumptions were in the context of what we knew then and what we know now. That builds up our ability to make those assessments going forward.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

There are significant pressures on health spending, as we have identified. It is of course a priority spend area as we seek to address challenges in health delivery. As I said, the biggest part of the consequentials that come through are passed on to the health service.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

I do not have it to hand, but we will pull that number up.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

Yes, we can.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

As I say, the budget process is taking place and decisions will be made on portfolio spending allocations. You could go through probably every portfolio and make a case as to why they deserve more funding. In that regard, education is no exception.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ivan McKee

I think that £200 million came out of that. The point is—