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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

As I have said, at the moment, only about two thirds of the total costs of the planning system are covered by planning fees. We have sought to ensure that the costs of the appeals will be covered by the fees that are charged, but, as I have said, the total costs of the planning system are not covered by fees at the moment.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

We consulted on the principle of fees for planning appeals and have taken on board the consultation responses. As I have said, there will of course be people who would be happy not to pay any fees for appeals—they would be delighted not to have to pay any planning fees at all—but that is not the world that we live in. We recognise that it is important to be able to resource the planning system. We recognise that there is a gap, as a result of only about two thirds of the cost of the planning system being covered by fees.

We have taken a number of measures, including the one that we are discussing and others to do with index linking and so on, to ensure that a higher proportion of the cost of the planning system is covered by fees than is the case at the moment. We think that tackling the resourcing issue that planning faces is an important step—of course, there are many others that need to be taken—in ensuring that the planning system is able to support development and tackle the housing emergency.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

Across the whole planning system, we recover only about two thirds of the fees from applicants. That is a long-standing issue that we are seeking to address by linking fees with inflation. My officials can speak to the specifics of the consultation.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

We consulted on the basis of there being planning fees; clearly, there are people who would not want us to introduce planning fees for appeals, because they would have to pay them. However, we did consult on that basis, we gathered views and we took them into account, and the Government has made proposals that we think are the right ones, given all the factors that have been identified. If somebody is saying that we should not raise the money through that route, they will need to be clear about where else we can raise the money from to cover that fiscal gap. It would have to happen either through councils having to take resource from other budgets or through an increase in planning fees more generally.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

It is the same with any process. The appellant would take a view on whether they wanted to proceed with the appeal, as they do when they make an application at the beginning of the process, because there are costs associated with that, too. If you are saying that we should not charge any planning fees at all, which is a logical extension of what you are saying, you would find resistance to that. If you are saying that we should not charge any fees at all, because it would encourage more people to bring forward housing development proposals, the problem would be that we would not have a well-resourced planning system. Everyone recognises that underresourcing is a particular challenge that we need to address.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

It is important that we separate the cost of running the planning system from the cost of the appeals process, which requires to be funded separately from the taking of decisions as part of the planning process. As I have said, in the planning process, decisions will be based on the information that is in front of the planning authority at various stages of the process. It is important that the process runs on that basis, and that is separate from the issue of the fees that are charged, which, as I said earlier, are to cover the cost of running the process.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

That there should be no ring fencing is an important principle. If we were to say, “We’re gonnae tell local authorities how they should spend their money”, I think that the committee would have something to say about that. That is an important point to recognise.

However, we have made it clear that we expect local authorities to use the money that they receive through the planning system—whether from fees for applications or fees for appeals—to resource the planning system. At the moment, councils are having to put extra money into the planning system in order to be able to process the applications and appeals that are in front of them.

The important principle that there should be no ring fencing, which we agreed through the Verity house agreement, is in place, but, as I have said, I would encourage local authorities to utilise the resource that is generated to support the planning system.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

It is the same process. The fees that come to the Scottish Government for those appeals are calculated as being sufficient to cover the costs of processing the appeals through the system that the Government has in place.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

I do not know the specific local cases that you are referring to, but in general, with regard to resourcing, we have taken significant steps. We have trebled the number of bursaries for planners coming through the system, which the Government is paying for, to help address the resourcing challenge. We have also hired a significant number of apprentice planners into the Government, which, again, the Government is paying for, to support the training of more young—and not-so-young—people who are coming into the system.

I have carried out a significant number of events with young planners to support and encourage them, and to look at routes for others who are mid-career and are seeking to come into the planning system. We have done quite a bit of work on the resourcing piece and on skills.

On best practice, the work that Craig McLaren, the national planning improvement champion, has taken forward is significant. It has involved peer-to-peer reviews across all 34 planning authorities, and the work that has come out of that has helped him objectively identify what best practice looks like and how planning authorities can learn from one another to improve the service that they offer to applicants.

You are absolutely right that having an informed conversation early in the process is better for everybody. It helps applications be of a higher standard, and it allows the applicant to understand what the planning authority is looking for when making its determination.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ivan McKee

It is important to recognise that planning appeals cost money, so somebody has to pay for them. The principle in the Scottish public finance manual is that the appellant should pay rather than the taxpayer.

We recognise that we are in a housing emergency. There are also many challenges in relation to the climate emergency, biodiversity and nature, and other challenges arising as a consequence of those. The planning system looks at all of that in the round, and there is a well-structured process. If people feel the need to appeal decisions, it is only right that the appellant, rather than the taxpayer, should carry the cost.