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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 November 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

The question that I put to the member is this: if charging fees was a panacea for the situation, why are several higher education institutions in England, which have high tuition fees of more than £9,000 a year, struggling financially?

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

The question is how we work together with the sector to take a constructive way forward and look at alternative funding models. The Scottish Government continues to engage with Universities Scotland in that collaborative approach, along with other parties, so that we can ensure the sector’s long-term financial sustainability.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I seem to have a drummer to my left. [Laughter.]

I am not saying that that approach has been abandoned. I embrace it fully, and I want to bring the same approach to the process. I did not mean in any way to disrespect another member or to say, implicitly or directly, that I am closed to anything—apart from bringing in tuition fees, which the Scottish Government has had and continues to have a strong position on. That is our policy. I know that Willie Rennie is engaged in constructive discussions on alternative funding models, along with Universities Scotland. I look forward to further conversations with him, and I hope that this answer reassures him in that regard.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I thank the member for raising the contribution of further education colleges not just to the people who are involved in them and enrolled as students but to the national economy and the local economies where they operate.

The member will appreciate that the budget was set by the Parliament for this financial year and that the Funding Council and the Government—which is engaging with the Funding Council—are giving on-going consideration to the serious matters that are raised in the report. I would be happy to have further dialogue with the member on these matters.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

The member talks about the pressure on the system. The austerity that the whole of the UK has had to live with since 2010 has not helped anyone in that regard, including our higher education system.

I appreciate the member’s points. However, he also seems to be making a point about—if I have heard this incorrectly, I am happy to be corrected—his belief that tuition fees should be reintroduced in Scotland. I do not share that approach, and neither does the Scottish Government.

Our approach of free tuition encourages individuals—young and older—to go into further and higher education to fulfil their potential without the consideration of the burden of debt. [Interruption.]

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

The member raises a point about the excellent university in her region. I have already had some engagement with that institution since coming into post last week. Members will appreciate that, through the budget process, the Government has shown a long-term commitment to universities by investing more than £1 billion in the sector every year since the 2012-13 financial year. That includes £1.1 billion for teaching and research in the previous budget.

However, we appreciate the pressures on the sector and the nature, context and substance of the reports that have been published. I look forward to engaging more with the Parliament on those important reports and questions, including at committee tomorrow. If the member wants to follow up with any specifics with regard to her region, I would be happy to receive that correspondence.

I would also be happy to engage with the member on the constructive correspondence that we can have with the UK Government to get it to play more of a part by using its massive financial power to support these very important contributors to the economy and to change its position on national insurance contributions and immigration policy, which have, in fact, damaged our higher education institutions.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am aware of Keith Brown’s proactive approach to this serious matter in his constituency. As he set out, the campus in Alloa plays a vital role in providing access to services for people in the community, and I and the Government are keen that everything possible is done to keep the campus open.

The Scottish Government and the Scottish Funding Council have identified a route by which some funding could be used this financial year to support urgent feasibility studies to inform the SFC’s forthcoming college infrastructure investment plan. The SFC is also working closely with the college sector to address infrastructure issues, including in the member’s constituency, and it continues to have close engagement with Forth Valley College on those matters.

I am grateful to the member for the engagement that he has shown so far, and I look forward to having further engagement with him on this matter of understandable concern in his constituency.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

The Scottish Government has supported over 163,000 students through the sector. Record numbers of individuals come from care-experienced backgrounds or are receiving support through the disabled students allowance. We have also provided support for individuals who come from more deprived backgrounds. Widening access has been a great success.

It is important to reflect on the fact that, under this Government, thousands of people go through our further and higher education institutions very successfully every year. The member makes a point about funding for the college sector. As I stated in previous answers, this Government has dedicated billions of pounds annually to supporting the sector and does so in an environment in which it operates within a restricted financial envelope.

As I have stated since taking up the post, I am keen to work constructively with members. If, as we go into the Scottish budget, the Labour Party wants to come to me and colleagues with suggestions for that budget, we would be happy to receive them. The big question—

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

However, the big question for all parties that we have to think about is where the money would come from in order to go somewhere else, and that is a factual consideration.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

The Scottish Funding Council publishes an analysis of financial stability of Scotland’s colleges and universities every year. The recent report that the member mentions is significant and is being considered as such by me and other ministers, as Parliament and the public would expect.

In that context, I emphasise that Scottish ministers recognise the vital role that universities and colleges play in the economy and wider society. However, despite the significant financial contribution from the Scottish Government in the previous budget, Scotland’s universities and colleges are facing a broad range of pressures, several of which have been caused by United Kingdom Government decisions. Those include its approach to immigration and changes to national insurance contributions, which have created an estimated cost of around £50 million per year. UK ministers have not provided support for those impacts.