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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Ben Macpherson

I will be brief.

This comment might be as much for the minister as it is for Mr Fraser—perhaps more so—-but I just want to highlight on the record the helpful commitment from Mr Fraser and the minister to having a follow-up meeting and to say that it would be useful and good if the committee could see a note of that meeting in due course.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Ben Macpherson

Did you want to add anything, Janet McVea?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Ben Macpherson

Good morning to you minister and to all your officials. Thank you for being with us.

I begin by saying that I warmly welcome the bill and the ambition to transition to a more circular economy and to improve recycling. The bill is part of the transformation to a circular economy and to improving our country’s waste management.

The bill as introduced includes a number of measures regarding recycling and the placing of responsibility on individuals and households. Although, like me, the stakeholders we have spoken to have welcomed the bill in principle, we have heard many comments that the bill focuses on the lower end of the waste hierarchy, particularly on recycling and household waste. We have also heard some powerful discourse about the omission of the construction sector from the bill, although that accounts for approximately 50 per cent of Scotland’s waste.

How do you respond to those concerns? Does the bill provide an ambitious enough framework to move us up the waste hierarchy by empowering more reuse and repair and creating facilities for that? If we are asking individuals to step up and do more, we must also think about the construction sector. I would be grateful to hear your reflections on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Ben Macpherson

Finally, on the considerations around repair and reuse, I know that the minister is familiar with the Edinburgh Remakery in Leith, in my constituency, which the committee also visited recently. If we are to grow such facilities and opportunities, is there an understanding in Government, the route map and the strategy that there will need to be either co-ordination with Government and investment in the third sector or provision from Government to expand those facilities if the bill and the following actions are to have the meaningful effect to which the bill aspires?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Ben Macpherson

Janet McVea talked about the code. Do you appreciate the overwhelming evidence that we have heard that, with due consideration to the geographical differences between urban Scotland and rural Scotland in particular, there is a demand and a need for a more consistent approach to household recycling whereby the recyclate product is at least similar, if not the same, from different parts of Scotland? That will mean that we can bring investment to create the facilities that we need to improve our recycling and that we can communicate with the public in a clear and consistent way in order to help to raise awareness and increase public participation in recycling.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Ben Macpherson

Good morning, and welcome to the 34th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. We have apologies from the convener, Edward Mountain. I welcome Brian Whittle, who is attending as his substitute.

The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take in private agenda item 3, under which we will consider the evidence that we will hear from all the witnesses on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill under agenda item 2. Do members agree to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Ben Macpherson

We have heard those points in previous evidence. We look forward to hearing your thoughts, particularly about reduction and repair.

Members have a lot of questions and we do not have enough time for everyone to answer every question, so I ask members to direct their questions to specific witnesses.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Ben Macpherson

Thank you—those are important practical points for us to consider.

We will move on to specific questions on the circular economy targets. I hand over to Jackie Dunbar.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Ben Macpherson

Yes, we would appreciate your thoughts on targets.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Ben Macpherson

Thank you, Brian.

We will have some questions from Douglas Lumsden, before we move to a final couple from Mark Ruskell.