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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

I appreciate that, and it is not a new issue for ministers and the Scottish Government either. I am trying to make the point that we are in constant dialogue with the sector on its requirements, needs, challenges and demands, and on how we work together to transform and continue to offer what Scotland needs for its young people, for other learners and for the economy.

Stuart Greig may want to come in briefly on discussions that he has had.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

I appreciate that that has been a point of interest for the committee. It is not for me to comment on individual salaries, and it is not for me to direct institutions as to what they may want to offer or provide in terms of remuneration in a competitive global market.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

Do you mean with regard to executive pay?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am happy to—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

Yes. I note the point, convener, and we will continue to think about the issue in the period ahead.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

Obviously, I am not going to be able to tell you the quantum now, because the Scottish Government cannot form its budget as we will not know what the UK Government budget is until 28 November. There is an internal process to go through—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

We all need to be leaders in this. I am happy to provide leadership from a ministerial position, but we will all need to be leaders in making sure that we are delivering the best collectively. I know that all colleges, as institutions and the individuals who work with them, are passionate about that. My anecdotal experience as a constituency MSP is that our college sector is extraordinarily inspirational in what it wants to do for young people. I want to work with colleges and to engage in the process of transformation, as well as supporting them financially in the ways that the Scottish Government can, if that is appropriate.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

It would be inaccurate to suggest that there has not been leadership in the past. From the times that I sat on the other side of this table and the other times that I observed him, I know that my predecessor was very engaged in working with the college sector on its needs, on what it wants and needs to deliver and on the transformation that is required.

I want to look forward. I am happy to give you an undertaking today that I will work proactively and collaboratively with our college sector to support colleges, and, most importantly, to work with them to provide the support to our learners and our economy that colleges are so important for.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

Cladding and reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete are two unanticipated external matters that have fallen on the sector. It would be more appropriate for me to take that issue away and engage through Government and get the member a proper response.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ben Macpherson

Yes. Of course, the reduction in income as a result of having fewer international students is a concern. However, we should also remember that a lot of international students are still coming to Scotland. They are welcome, and we want them here, because they are important contributors, as I outlined in my previous answer.

It is not just the legal changes that are being made; the signal that the UK Government is sending out is not helpful for our institutions across the UK, either. We are considering the situation for our institutions in Scotland—and that is, of course, most pertinent to us—but I should point out that several institutions in England are really struggling, and part of that is to do with international students, too. At least, that is my understanding.