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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 January 2026
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you for those initial answers. I move to Richard Leonard.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

—that it would be interested.

Are you content with that, Murdo?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I have one last question, which relates to something that I raised earlier. Our remit is to consider the SPCB-supported bodies, but you have interactions with the Government, as well as with the Parliament. Do you want to say anything about your role in, for example, engaging with the Scottish Government on the code of conduct for councillors? There are parts of your work that are important in that regard.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

With that, I thank you again for your time and evidence today, and for undertaking to provide written correspondence to the committee and separate correspondence to Mr Fraser and one of our other committees.

Next week, the committee will be will take evidence from the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman.

That concludes the public part of our meeting. As agreed, we will now move into private session to consider today’s evidence.

11:09 Meeting continued in private until 11:23.  

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

We will come to the other commissioners in due course. In order to build on that helpful introduction, can you say more about what you consider to be the purpose of an SPCB-supported commissioner? In particular, how does the role differ from those of ministers, MSPs and other bodies? In your response to the call for views, you emphasised the importance of independence for SPCB-supported bodies, but in your view, and in your experience, how does that independence enhance public confidence in the ethical conduct of MSPs, councillors and public body board members?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

We move to questions from Ash Regan.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

If colleagues have nothing further that they want to ask, I have one final question.

You talked earlier about the strategic plan, which, as we all know, is set in legislation to run for a period of four years. Is that an adequate timeframe? Would a longer or shorter timeframe have a positive or negative impact? Do you have any feedback on the strategic plan timeframe?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

We look forward to receiving those two bits of follow-up information that you kindly undertook to provide in writing. Thank you for attending today, Mr Bruce.

10:12 Meeting suspended.  

10:18 On resuming—  

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

People need to know where you are and that they can come to you, to return to themes that we touched on earlier.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I would like you to clarify. You said that it would be very difficult to do that if you were in the same organisation, but it would not be impossible, practically or in principle, would it? I am not saying that this is a conclusion that the committee has come to. I just want to probe the issue slightly more.