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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 January 2026
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Gina, do you want to add to that?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Good morning, and welcome to the fifth meeting in 2025 of the SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee. I have received no apologies.

Today, the committee will take evidence from the Scottish Human Rights Commission and then from the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland.

I welcome to the committee Professor Angela O’Hagan, who is the chair of the Scottish Human Rights Commission, and Jan Savage, who is its executive director. Thank you for being with us.

We move directly to questions. Similar to what I have done when other commissioners have been at the committee in recent weeks, I will start by asking a general question. What do you consider to be the purpose of the Scottish Human Rights Commission, and how does that differ from the role of ministers, MSPs and other bodies? Of course, as MSPs, we have experience and understanding of that, but it will be helpful, for context, if you set that out in the first instance.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

In defence of my colleague Murdo Fraser, when we ask these questions, we are not doing so from the position of making a proposal or giving a set view. We ask them to cover the remit of our committee and to ensure that we obtain the evidence that we need to take the work forward. In that context, your examples are helpful to the committee, Gina. Murdo Fraser’s questions and the response that we have received have been helpful, so thank you for adding that.

11:00  

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you for those helpful insights, examples and responses.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Lorna Slater, you had a last question, and I also have one. I am conscious of the time, so we need brief questions and succinct answers, please.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you.

Perhaps I can clarify a few things for the sake of completeness. On the victims and witnesses commissioner, that proposal is still being considered as part of stage 2 of the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill.

During the course of the meeting, some undertakings were given with regard to specific points that were made by Ash Regan, and on the committee’s work, in response to Lorna Slater. I am grateful in advance for our being sent that written correspondence.

Lastly, thank you both very much for your written submissions, for your evidence today and for your time.

I suspend briefly to allow for a changeover of panels.

10:42 Meeting suspended.  

10:48 On resuming—  

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

To stick to the topic that Richard Leonard asked about, I am conscious that your powers were extended in 2014. Mr Hobbs has given some indication of other powers that he thinks might be useful for you to have. If, following this meeting, you wanted to give a formal position or further consideration—in a similar way that the Scottish Human Rights Commission did in its written submission—on what other powers might be appropriate, useful, helpful or in the public interest, please feel free to follow that up in writing.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

In relation to scrutiny, I was a member of the Scottish Parliament’s Education, Children and Young People Committee when you gave your first annual report. In recent times, you are the only SPCB supported commissioner from whom I have heard evidence in a committee—actually, the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner came to a Criminal Justice Committee meeting a few weeks ago. Could such sessions be more robust and more probing? For MSPs, those sessions are sometimes more about hearing about your work, which is important, but could MSPs provide more scrutiny during them?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

It is very helpful for our considerations to get those differences on record.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

That segues nicely into questions from Richard Leonard.