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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

You mentioned the behaviour in the community of a small minority of under-18s towards officers. Anecdotally and more widely, it seems that that is a growing problem and concern. Could you provide some written feedback to the committee after the meeting? I do not want to detract from the issue of mental health, but—

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

On that point, for clarity, a great number of police officers who are physically or otherwise disabled are deployable assets and are able to do great work in the community daily.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

Let us remember that there was also a significant cost saving.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

That is very interesting, thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

After the meeting, could you provide information on the scale of the growing challenge of a small minority of under-18s and their, often violent, behaviour in communities, including towards police officers? We discussed that issue in the Parliament last week in relation to the use of off-road vehicles, for example.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

How much engagement is there on scheduling? For example, in Edinburgh, when we have the August festivals, the additional pressure on the police service is obvious. If there are home games at Tynecastle or Easter Road against one of the big Glasgow clubs at the start of the football season, that has an added impact, and there will be a very big concert at Murrayfield during the festivals next year. Police Scotland have never said to me, an MSP who represents part of this city, that it has difficulties and is not able to meet that demand. It seems that there needs to be a logical approach to scheduling and considering the demands on the force.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

Do those conversations take place with the other parties that are involved?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

That was all very helpful. Does anyone want to touch on the impact that regular events and major events have on demand?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

I will follow the previous line of questioning. We are all aware of the difficulties with the i6 programme and the continued need for improvement in the overall infrastructure of Police Scotland’s IT systems. Will the roll-out of body-worn cameras be future proofed for further IT enhancement in the service?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Ben Macpherson

Thank you. I just thought that that was an important point of clarity.

Police Scotland’s submission says that a workforce survey was undertaken in the summer, and we await the results, which will be interesting and important and will give us a refreshed empirical base. This might be anecdotal, but my engagement is similar to that of trade union representatives, in that people in my constituency who come to see me normally do so at a time of challenge.

How is the police interaction with other services still affecting demand? For example, when officers have to accompany people to adult mental health services, the waiting times have an effect on the police service’s capacity to attend other cases and incidents, and it is frustrating for officers to have to wait hours in order to fulfil their duty of care. To what extent is that still an issue?

You talked about rest, which is obviously extremely important, and the challenge in scheduling shifts. How much of an impact do other events in our society, such as sporting and cultural activities, have? I know that, in Edinburgh, a lot of officers’ leave gets cancelled in order for them to cover such events. How much thought is given by organisations and businesses to the police’s capacity to safely deal with such events and to the effect that such events have on the increasing demand on officers in our country?