The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
No—I have not had conversations about that. It is important to note that the Parliament passed the bill at stage 1. I also heard loudly and clearly—and I was pleased to hear it last week during the stage 1 debate—that there is a unified understanding that we need to make progress on the skills agenda, whether that is in industry, across the political parties or across the business community. We know that we need to make progress, but the question is how. The whys are shared but the how is where the disagreement is.
I listened carefully to all the speeches during the stage 1 process of the bill last week and I will reflect on them. However, if the primary legislation is to progress—which the Parliament voted for last week—it is incumbent on members to collectively make it work as efficiently and effectively as possible for the people of Scotland.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
That is a fair question, convener. I am taking time to reflect on the stage 1 debate, and I hope that you will allow me that. It is important to emphasise that, as I recall was stated earlier this morning, the IT costs are an upper estimate and there has been a reanalysis of the finances. I will engage bilaterally with members on the bill ahead of stage 2, as they wish, and I will proactively reach out to several members of the committee. I can reach out to the whole committee, if that is preferred, but I will certainly engage ahead of stage 2 in relation to further analysis of the figures.
The analysis of the finances that was provided to Parliament ahead of stage 1 was undertaken professionally by actuaries, and it was robust. I will seek further comfort on those figures ahead of stage 2, as well as on the pension arrangements, as I said in my summing up at stage 1.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
That is completely fair, and I am happy to be engaged in that way.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
I was not anticipating a further discussion on the bill today, because we had quite a broad one at the stage 1 debate last week, but I am very happy to engage. The question that we have to ask ourselves as a legislature is whether we want to legislate in that area, and I think that there is a requirement that we should.
It is unrepresentative to characterise the intention of the bill as just moving function from one place to another. It is about streamlining and, as the SFC set out this morning, creating greater efficiency so that we have the right arrangement to direct the resources to ensure that we maximise the delivery of the apprenticeships and training programmes. We could have a more optimal system than our current one.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
Like the member, I welcome the long-term planning in the spending review and the medium-term financial strategy. I would be grateful if John Mason could give me the space to engage with finance ministers on that question and provide the committee with an answer in writing.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
I will bring in Amanda Callaghan in a moment, but I want to be clear that there is no intention to delay the process—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
The Scottish Government shares the committee’s determination to see the institution succeed and to be sustainable. I hear the points that have been made, and we will update the Parliament and the committee when we can with further details.
Amanda, do you want to add anything?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
I heard the discussion in the previous evidence session on the scenario with the principal, and I would want to emphasise—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
Could you give me some more context to that, please?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
Because, in the diligence of being a minister, I want to understand the situation around the conversations that I have had here at the committee.