The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
I will update the committee on that when I am ready to.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
I would have to take that away and look at it in more detail. We know that the financial transaction budget for the Scottish Government has been massively slashed in previous financial years, and that has had consequences not just in this portfolio but elsewhere. I will take that issue away and write to the committee.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
The issue of international students is, of course, important for all universities across the UK, not just those in Scotland. First, I think it important to state the benefit of international students, and not just in a monetary sense through the fee income that they bring into universities. Something that we need to consider collectively, as we work with universities on sustainable funding, is how to be not overly reliant on international student income. That income is very important; indeed, it is a public benefit not just to universities, but to the whole of the UK, and it is, of course, of particular interest to our Government in Scotland.
However, this is not just about bringing people here so that they can pay fees and can study; it is also about what they do when they are here and their participation in our economy and society. I can give you an example from a visit that I made to a care home in my constituency not so long ago. The international students studying care who do not go home in the summer, because, financially, it makes no sense for them, stay in Scotland and provide extra cover in that care home, allowing the other carers who work there to take their annual leave over the summer. I just use that as an example of the multi-benefits of having international students.
Furthermore, when many of these international students were able to stay here before Brexit, before these immigration changes and, indeed, before the further restrictions that we are going to see on immigration, they started businesses and worked in our public services and our economy. There is a multiplier effect to the benefits of international students, not just in terms of the fees and income that they provide to universities, and I implore the UK Government to rethink its position on putting restrictions on them. My strong view is that that is not a solution to some immigration challenge that it believes exists; instead, it is a damaging change of economic policy from the UK Government. Quite frankly, it is illogical.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
Yes, of course, because it means that what individuals here have to consider is just their cost of living—although I should say that there is a good support package for that, too—rather than the accumulation of the cost of living, fees and so on.
We know how difficult things are, particularly for our young people at the moment. At a UK level, millennials, and younger, are finding the affordability of housing more of a challenge than it has been for decades. Finding ways in which we can support our young people and ensure that they are not overly burdened by debt and can move into their careers with confidence, having had a first-class education, is rightly a priority for this Government.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
I do not want to be definitive on how that will be expressed, but I am not close-minded to the idea of engaging with the Parliament in that way.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
No—I have not had conversations about that. It is important to note that the Parliament passed the bill at stage 1. I also heard loudly and clearly—and I was pleased to hear it last week during the stage 1 debate—that there is a unified understanding that we need to make progress on the skills agenda, whether that is in industry, across the political parties or across the business community. We know that we need to make progress, but the question is how. The whys are shared but the how is where the disagreement is.
I listened carefully to all the speeches during the stage 1 process of the bill last week and I will reflect on them. However, if the primary legislation is to progress—which the Parliament voted for last week—it is incumbent on members to collectively make it work as efficiently and effectively as possible for the people of Scotland.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
That is a fair question, convener. I am taking time to reflect on the stage 1 debate, and I hope that you will allow me that. It is important to emphasise that, as I recall was stated earlier this morning, the IT costs are an upper estimate and there has been a reanalysis of the finances. I will engage bilaterally with members on the bill ahead of stage 2, as they wish, and I will proactively reach out to several members of the committee. I can reach out to the whole committee, if that is preferred, but I will certainly engage ahead of stage 2 in relation to further analysis of the figures.
The analysis of the finances that was provided to Parliament ahead of stage 1 was undertaken professionally by actuaries, and it was robust. I will seek further comfort on those figures ahead of stage 2, as well as on the pension arrangements, as I said in my summing up at stage 1.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
That is completely fair, and I am happy to be engaged in that way.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
I was not anticipating a further discussion on the bill today, because we had quite a broad one at the stage 1 debate last week, but I am very happy to engage. The question that we have to ask ourselves as a legislature is whether we want to legislate in that area, and I think that there is a requirement that we should.
It is unrepresentative to characterise the intention of the bill as just moving function from one place to another. It is about streamlining and, as the SFC set out this morning, creating greater efficiency so that we have the right arrangement to direct the resources to ensure that we maximise the delivery of the apprenticeships and training programmes. We could have a more optimal system than our current one.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Ben Macpherson
Like the member, I welcome the long-term planning in the spending review and the medium-term financial strategy. I would be grateful if John Mason could give me the space to engage with finance ministers on that question and provide the committee with an answer in writing.