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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Thank you. The deputy convener would like to ask a brief supplementary.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Welcome back for our second panel of witnesses for our short inquiry into artificial intelligence. I am very pleased that we are joined by Steve Aitken, the founder of Intelligent Plant Ltd, and Leo Fakhrul, chief executive officer of XYNQ and Mamba Sounds. Unfortunately, Rich Wilson is not with us. I note on the record that he had a small accident this morning. I am sure that all members of the committee join me in wishing him a speedy recovery.

We have just over an hour, so I would appreciate concise questions and, if possible—although this is an expansive topic—concise responses. I will hand over straight away to my deputy convener, Michelle Thomson.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

A short report will be prepared and published, and I invite the committee to delegate report clearance to me as convener. Is that acceptable to the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I suspend the committee briefly in order to change witnesses.

09:12 Meeting suspended.  

09:14 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I will hand over to Murdo Fraser.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I suspend the meeting for 10 minutes; I ask members to be back for 10 past 11, please.

10:58 Meeting suspended.  

11:10 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

To help us steer through that, I have a few questions. Both of you engage with technology and run technology-based companies. As you think about AI and what that means for how you go about your day-to-day work, how does it shape how you organise around a problem, how you organise your businesses and how you seek to arrange things to meet your customers’ and your clients’ demands? I think that we all probably have a very 20th century model in our heads about what a business looks like—there is a chief executive and he or she has four to six vice-presidents or whatever the latest job title is, and they all have a column of people who report to them, and there might be some horizontals. To my mind, that goes, because that is throwing people at an information problem. When you think about your business, how should we be thinking about organising and organisations? What should those principles be if AI is in the mix?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Likewise, Leo Fakhrul, if you were to explain a 21st century company that embeds AI, what would you say were its organising principles? It is not about functional silos based around information, because the AI will do that for you. What do you think the organising principles are for an AI-based company?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Fantastic. We have definitely run out of time, although we have certainly not run out of questions. I thank both our panels for validating my degree choice, given that I am a philosophy graduate. With that, I thank you both for your time this morning. It has been extremely useful. We have a lot to think about and I am now worried about how we will pull this together in a single report. We might have to use some AI ourselves to do that. Thank you so much. I draw the public session to a close.

12:22 Meeting continued in private until 12:34.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I thank the minister for that answer about the economic value. Are there any practical or other considerations?