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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 January 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

Thank you. I will bring in Lorna Slater.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2026 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. I wish everyone a happy new year. I believe that we are still in time to be doing such things.

This morning we start our evidence sessions on the draft climate change plan that the Scottish Government has published. Before we begin, I note that Kevin Stewart and Michelle Thomson from the committee are joining us online; Richard Woolley, who is one of our witnesses, is also appearing remotely.

We are joined by a panel of witnesses comprising: Professor Paul de Leeuw, director, Robert Gordon University Energy Transition Institute; Stacey Dingwall, head of policy and external affairs for Scotland, Federation of Small Businesses; David Thomson, chief executive, Food and Drink Federation Scotland; Professor Karen Turner, director, centre for energy policy, University of Strathclyde; and Richard Woolley, head of energy and climate change, Chemical Industries Association. I should note that Professor Turner is also joining us online.

Given the number of witnesses, I ask that in the first instance members direct questions to a particular member of the panel, but if other witnesses want to come in they should please try to catch our eye or indicate online.

I will open the questioning. When I think about the debate surrounding the previous climate change plan, I recall that there was considerable criticism that it was heavy on high-level targets and light on detailed implementation. That risked there being a lack of clarity on how things were meant to proceed. If we look at the figures on carbon reduction categorised by industry, we can see that there has been a 57 per cent reduction since 1990. However, that has been driven not by carbon initiatives but by deindustrialisation. Does the current draft plan represent a step forward in providing such detail, or are we risking further deindustrialisation in Scotland?

Given his broad expertise, I will bring in Professor Paul de Leeuw to open up the responses and to provide his observations.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

Stephen Kerr would also like to ask a supplementary.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

It is interesting that France has the lowest electricity costs in Europe, as I understand it. I believe that Karen Turner would like to come in, and then I will go to Richard Woolley with some specific questions.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

I think that Richard Woolley was hoping to come in.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

I will resume our questions by handing over to Stephen Kerr.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Daniel Johnson

I am sure that your ministerial colleagues would love that response.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Daniel Johnson

Our approach is that we want to be as diligent as possible and to pull that apart, which is why we have asked many of our questions.

Similarly, following on from Gordon MacDonald’s line of questioning, we have talked a bit about what might happen in other jurisdictions, particularly across the rest of the UK. There has been discussion about an expert group being formed. What sort of dialogue has been established between the Scottish Government, the UK Government and the other jurisdictions in the UK about making sure that we keep pace and input, because there will be overlaps as we go forward?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Daniel Johnson

It therefore remains for me to conclude the public part of our meeting. I thank the minister and the bill team. The bill team has been diligent in paying attention to our evidence sessions—the committee has noted that and welcomes it. I just wanted to put that on the record. I thank you for this morning and for the on-going work.

10:52 Meeting continued in private until 12:04.