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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

It is. I reiterate that, overall, this morning’s session has been incredibly useful. Are there any final points or issues that the committee should have alighted on or flagged in our questions? Again, I am mindful that we are all trying to grapple with this topic.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

With that, I thank Lord Hodge and Professor Fox for their time, insight and patience as the committee has sought to get up to speed with the topic. They have been incredibly helpful.

We move into private session for the committee to consider items 3, 4 and 5.

10:50 Meeting continued in private until 11:27.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I will ask one final question before I hand over to my colleagues. I note that one of the specific recommendations in your report was that there should be clarification regarding trusts, given that it is common for such objects to be held or owned by trusts. On my reading of it, I was not clear that the bill provides that clarification. Are you happy that, given that the bill sets out that digital assets are property and, given that trusts are capable of owning property, they are covered? I want to ask for that clarification, as it was one thing that I noted in your report that I was not clear was in the bill.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

It is a very interesting topic, but I urge members to move on.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I have a subsequent question. Procurement is a topic that comes up regularly at this committee, and one of the regular points is about how open procurement processes are to the broadest range of firms, especially smaller firms. Will the instrument help, or is it largely to one side of that topic? I thought that it was important to raise that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I might just ask a couple of brief questions following on from that—I am not sure that they are brief, actually. This morning, we have ended up hyperfocusing on single-person billion-dollar companies and they will probably exist, but it is probably something that looks a little less dramatic that will be more pervasive. Listening to both the earlier session and this one, I wonder whether the point is that we need to focus on ensuring that people create rather than just consume, and produce rather than just process. It is very difficult to predict precisely, but following on from what you have just said, are those some of the shifts that we need to think about to ensure that we are leveraging AI? If we are just consuming and processing, AI can do that much better, but we are not really going to be part of the value chain if we are just consuming. Is that the right way of thinking about it? Is that a reasonable conclusion to draw from some of the things that we have been talking about this morning?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Great. I am tempted to ask a raft of follow-up questions, but I think I would probably be in danger of allegations of copyright theft from my fellow members, Michelle Thomson and Murdo Fraser, both of whom want to follow up on some of those points. I will hand over to Michelle and invite her to ask her questions.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

As members have no questions, we move to agenda item 2, which is the formal consideration of the motion. I remind everyone that only members and the minister may take part in this part of our proceedings. I invite the minister to speak to and move motion S6M-19302.

Motion moved,

That the Economy and Fair Work Committee recommends that the Public Procurement (Iraq Free Trade Agreement) (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Ivan McKee]

Motion agreed to.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Thank you very much, minister.

I begin again by asking what the instrument will mean in practical terms. My understanding is that it will essentially enable devolved bodies to use UK-wide procurement frameworks. Are there practical examples in which either that has happened or the Scottish Government or its agencies intend to use the provisions? Can you outline some examples?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Michelle Thomson would like to follow up on that.