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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Ruth Maguire

Good morning. Thank you, Pam, for being with us. I appreciate your opening statement, particularly your recognition of the evidence that committee colleagues have taken. We are also very grateful to the young people, parents and practitioners who shared their expert experience with us.

I would like to ask you about the implementation gap, given that, as we know, there are policies in place. We have heard from parents, young people and practitioners that the reason for the gap is to do with capacity and resources. Parents talk to us about communication as well, and practitioners, in particular, have spoken about culture and leadership. In your view, why do we have that implementation gap? It is clear that what we currently have in place is failing too many of our disabled children and young people. What are the reasons, in your view, for the implementation gap that young people are experiencing?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Ruth Maguire

Thank you for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

Good morning, panel. I have asked previous witnesses what the key barriers are to a good transition for our disabled children and young people, so I put that question to the whole panel. I ask you, in reflecting on that, to give me your views on what drives good practice where it happens.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

Thank you. That is helpful. I am happy to hear from any other members of the panel if they have anything to add.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

It sounds like the least tasty salad ever, but yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

Is the flexibility that you are talking about to do with resource or capacity? What makes for a good, person-centred, flexible service?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

I am sorry that I am focusing on you, Tracey. Does more legislation and guidance assist with being more flexible?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

Good morning, ministers. It is good to see you here.

I have asked this morning and in previous sessions for witnesses’ reflections on what the key barriers are at the moment to achieving better outcomes for our disabled children and young people as they leave school. We have heard reflections around resources and capacity. This morning, we have spoken a little bit about information and communication, both among practitioners and with families and the young people. Can I hear from you what you think the issues might be? Will you also say why there seems to be little progress in the area despite the pretty robust framework of legislation that we already have?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

Forgive me for staying with the example of North Ayrshire, but its figures are the ones that I know, although I think that my line of inquiry about the situation there will be relevant to other areas of Scotland. North Ayrshire was one of the areas that lost Scottish attainment challenge funding. We have had that debate, and I absolutely recognise that there is poverty everywhere and that that funding needs to be provided across Scotland. However, the local authority employed an additional 17 teachers with that funding. Now that its funding has been reduced, it needs to find that money from elsewhere.

I recognise what the cabinet secretary has said about teacher numbers, which are important. However, when we talk about the poverty-related attainment gap, for children and families in my constituency, good services such as libraries and leisure centres are also crucial for their opportunities. What assessment has the Scottish Government made in relation to those things?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Ruth Maguire

I appreciate the cabinet secretary’s answer. You mentioned exceptional circumstances. We all acknowledge that there is no evidence that reducing teacher numbers would assist in reducing the poverty-related attainment gap.

We might have a case in North Ayrshire of a surplus of teachers. Perhaps the Scottish Government could look to the specific circumstances of the area—not to consider additional funding, but to ensure that we are taking a fair and consistent approach that benefits the children and schools there.